[s346k]

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

Nobody gives a rats fu$k about your stupid guns/ammo.

false statement. evident judging by the last thread you firebombed regarding such.

i hope the c8 rolls out and leaves red asses worldwide for many years to come. gm sucks at everything but high performance, how many decades of vehicle production will it take you fools to figure this out..?

[Artos]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

That’s what I typically haul around so that’s the example I used. If that offends you Mr. Snowflake then go f*** yourself.

It's absolutely wonderful...I have my ffl as a side gig & never expected to be able to run errands it requires in the ZL1. Laying the back seats down & being able to fit multiple packaged long guns is a blessing.

I live in a company truck & never even considered the Camaro could handle such storage & quite impressive....last thing I want to do after driving that bitch 300-400 miles a day is jump back in it for mailing off consignments after work or on the weekends!!

[oldman]

Originally Posted by undy

It's an 8 speed DCT tranny, not 7.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...h-transmission.

The Z51 has the tubular equal length headers VS to base model's cast iron manifolds. That makes the MOST difference on the 5HP increase.

https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-te...but-different/

I have one on order and have done a ton of research.

Point being the z51 gear cluster is optimized for road racing, it is a complete assumption that a road race gear pack makes for better 0 to 60, and that knowing the FD, still yields no data to judge.

Go info on header, now u just made the c8 more expensive for me

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Most likely it has the same ratios besides the final drive. The FD difference is all GM has mentioned for it as well as far as I've seen.

And there would be zero reason to change ratios to offset the shorter final drive. Literally no reason. If they did so why bother changing it at all...

The closer gear pack is very common for road racing...I do see less or maybe now no need for a closer gear pack. Still 3.6 to 3.8 is a vey small change

[Silverado57]

Not this year, maybe someday...

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by oldman

The closer gear pack is very common for road racing...I do see less or maybe now no need for a closer gear pack. Still 3.6 to 3.8 is a vey small change

It can be. Or you can use the FD to accomplish the same thing. Generally you want to select your gearsets to match engine peaks so an upshift doesn't put you below peak torque. Final drives are very commonly changed then to suit the track itself.

The one thing shorter gears will also do is require another shift. Not as big of a deal with the DCT but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the C8 Z51 hits 62mph in second gear like so many other cars to favor 0-60 times.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

It can be. Or you can use the FD to accomplish the same thing. Generally you want to select your gearsets to match engine peaks so an upshift doesn't put you below peak torque. Final drives are very commonly changed then to suit the track itself.

The one thing shorter gears will also do is require another shift. Not as big of a deal with the DCT but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the C8 Z51 hits 62mph in second gear like so many other cars to favor 0-60 times.

Agree here except a FD change can not fix a close ratio pack, at least upto say 5 speeds. the closer pack for a M-21 was to keep the engine in the rev range during shifts on a road course. I did give up take off the M-21 is a 2.20 first gear... since road races are not won on the take off, it was not an issue. Till you try to go up a steep hotel ramp with a car full of drunk girls and a huge cam.....

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Silverado57

Not this year, maybe someday...

Looks great

[DaveD81]

I’ll just leave this right here.
https://www.suburbanchevrolet.com/2020Corvette

[oldman]

Gee just go ahead and make us feel like we have just been put into the scrap heap... I almost feel like I got a horse and buggy looking at the first model T in town with my gf in the passenger seat

[redcoats1976]

im still happy with my 2015 RS.newest car ive ever owned.not everyone needs to raid their retirement account for the new vette,nice as it is.

[DaveD81]

will be enjoying a 19 1LE just the way Chevrolet buit it.
(anyone care to take a guess what the hardest to find 1LE in a few years will be?)
That said I will be taking a hard look at the Corvette in 2022

[brianxix]

Originally Posted by redcoats1976

im still happy with my 2015 RS.newest car ive ever owned.not everyone needs to raid their retirement account for the new vette,nice as it is.

I agree. I have a feeling the C8 will be everywhere, and lose its "wow factor" as time goes on. I'm happy with my Camaro, and in a few years who knows what will be out there. The C8 raised the bar and the competition must respond to stay relevant.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by DaveD81

will be enjoying a 19 1LE just the way Chevrolet buit it.
(anyone care to take a guess what the hardest to find 1LE in a few years will be?)
That said I will be taking a hard look at the Corvette in 2022

It will be the 5th gen 2013 1Le .