I’m happy this forum is here (first oil change on new Camaro)

Therealbigrich · 03-09-2020, 10:44 AM

About to hit 1500 miles and decided I’ll change the fluid then instead of at 500 and 1500 . Went to roll up my 2020 SS up my rhino ramps and off course it rubs the lip. So came on to the forum and found racing ramps as a suggestion but also jack and ZL1 add on pads . Went that route and just about ready to change the oil . Just waiting for the pads and will be doing the change this weekend . It sure why the pick is sideways lol

vtirocz · 03-09-2020, 10:49 AM

Just FYI: That's not the GM recommended / Dexos approved 0W-40 ESP oil. It's probably perfectly fine, but I just wanted to point that out.

2SS Capt · 03-09-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vtirocz

Just FYI: That's not the GM recommended / Dexos approved 0W-40 ESP oil. It's probably perfectly fine, but I just wanted to point that out.

That is correct, this is the oil you want:

Therealbigrich · 03-09-2020, 02:13 PM

I wonder what the difference is ? Idk I’ll have to debate using it now . It was only 50 bucks. I’ll order the right oil but amazon has it for 116 for 12 quarts . Anybody got better prices ?

2SS Capt · 03-09-2020, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Therealbigrich

I wonder what the difference is ? Idk I’ll have to debate using it now . It was only 50 bucks. I’ll order the right oil but amazon has it for 116 for 12 quarts . Anybody got better prices ?

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Mobil...ts,371931.html $109.98 for 12 qts & free shipping...

L78toLT1 · 03-09-2020, 05:15 PM

I notice you only have one bottle of differential fluid. You're going to need another bottle. I can't recall the capacity, but it's more than a quart. I seem to recall that it's 1.4, but don't take my word for it, check the owners manual

2SS Capt · 03-09-2020, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by L78toLT1

I notice you only have one bottle of differential fluid. You're going to need another bottle. I can't recall the capacity, but it's more than a quart. I seem to recall that it's 1.4, but don't take my word for it, check the owners manual

I just did mine this weekend and it took 1.25 qts...

wjones14 · 03-09-2020, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Therealbigrich

I wonder what the difference is ? Idk I’ll have to debate using it now . It was only 50 bucks. I’ll order the right oil but amazon has it for 116 for 12 quarts . Anybody got better prices ?

You have the viscosity right for your 2020 1SS, but the oil you bought is not Dexos2 certified. Dexos2 oil has the blue logo on the container, like in the picture by 2SS Capt.

From the 2020 owners manual:

"Use engine oils that meet the dexos2 specification."

and

"Use SAE 0W-40 viscosity grade engine oil.

If 0W-40 dexos2 oil is not available, SAE 5W-30 dexos1 full synthetic engine oil may be used for street use."

Therealbigrich · 03-09-2020, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wjones14

You have the viscosity right for your 2020 1SS, but the oil you bought is not Dexos2 certified. Dexos2 oil has the blue logo on the container, like in the picture by 2SS Capt.

From the 2020 owners manual:

"Use engine oils that meet the dexos2 specification."

and

"Use SAE 0W-40 viscosity grade engine oil.

If 0W-40 dexos2 oil is not available, SAE 5W-30 dexos1 full synthetic engine oil may be used for street use."

yeah I ordered new oil and returning the old oil. Forum saved me again cause if I didnt post this I would not of seen it

JROC · 03-11-2020, 10:00 PM

Just do like me and run whatever brand synthetic in the recommended weight you want. From my understanding oil companies have to pay for that Dexo2 badge and many just say fudge it.

Why do I use oil that's not Dexo2?

Because Pennzoil Ultra > Mobil 1, Rotella T6 > Mobil 1, Motul > Mobil 1, Redline > Mobil 1. Let's just use Mobil 1 to represent any current Dexo2 labeled oil in our cars recommended oil weight.

I'm not going to be a slave to GM's Dexo2 rating and run an oil I don't like over ones I'm personally fond of. I you only feel comfortable running Dexo2 labeled oil then I say that's okay, and more power to you. They're still good oils.

2SS Capt · 03-11-2020, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JROC

Just do like me and run whatever brand synthetic in the recommended weight you want. From my understanding oil companies have to pay for that Dexo2 badge and many just say fudge it.

Why do I use oil that's not Dexo2?

Because Pennzoil Ultra > Mobil 1, Rotella T6 > Mobil 1, Motul > Mobil 1, Redline > Mobil 1. Let's just use Mobil 1 to represent any current Dexo2 labeled oil in our cars recommended oil weight.

I'm not going to be a slave to GM's Dexo2 rating and run an oil I don't like over ones I'm personally fond of. I you only feel comfortable running Dexo2 labeled oil then I say that's okay, and more power to you. They're still good oils.

My concern with that is the specified oil for the LT1 currently is the "Mobil 1 0W-40 ESP Formula" (Dexos 2), the "ESP Formula" is the part that I think I would certainly want as that is "Emission System Protection Formula", this should help the cats and hopefully be less vaporization into the PCV system (less coaking of the intake valves and less chance of pre-ignition or detonation...

I bought a $50k+ car with a $19k+ engine, I'll spend a little extra and do what the manufacture recommends... If I spend an extra $100/year on oil, that's the cost of owning a high performance vehicle...

vtirocz · 03-12-2020, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

My concern with that is the specified oil for the LT1 currently is the "Mobil 1 0W-40 ESP Formula" (Dexos 2), the "ESP Formula" is the part that I think I would certainly want as that is "Emission System Protection Formula", this should help the cats and hopefully be less vaporization into the PCV system (less cocking of the intake valves and less chance of pre-ignition or detonation...

I bought a $50k+ car with a $19k+ engine, I'll spend a little extra and do what the manufacture recommends... If I spend an extra $100/year on oil, that's the cost of owning a high performance vehicle...

I agree with your points, but the LT1 is more like $8400 for a crate engine - see example: https://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet-Per...18843/10002/-1

That's still big bucks and significantly more expensive than the LS3.

slimjim2525 · 03-14-2020, 10:28 AM

I went with Castrol Edge 0w40. I got it off this list, and by BITOG recommendation. It does not say dexos2 on the jug, but here it is on their list from GM.
https://www.gmdexos.com/brands/dexos2/index.html

03-09-2020, 10:44 AM	#1
Therealbigrich Drives: 2020 1SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cheverly, Md Posts: 162 View My Garage	I’m happy this forum is here (first oil change on new Camaro) About to hit 1500 miles and decided I’ll change the fluid then instead of at 500 and 1500 . Went to roll up my 2020 SS up my rhino ramps and off course it rubs the lip. So came on to the forum and found racing ramps as a suggestion but also jack and ZL1 add on pads . Went that route and just about ready to change the oil . Just waiting for the pads and will be doing the change this weekend . It sure why the pick is sideways lol Attached Images Last edited by Therealbigrich; 03-09-2020 at 10:45 AM. Reason: Pic edit

03-09-2020, 10:49 AM	#2
vtirocz Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Indy Posts: 2,460	Just FYI: That's not the GM recommended / Dexos approved 0W-40 ESP oil. It's probably perfectly fine, but I just wanted to point that out. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS, M6, Hurst shifter, Hyper Blue, NPP, Gray Split Spoke Wheels Best 1/4 Mile: 12.24 @ 115.9 mph

03-09-2020, 02:13 PM	#4
Therealbigrich Drives: 2020 1SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cheverly, Md Posts: 162 View My Garage	I wonder what the difference is ? Idk I’ll have to debate using it now . It was only 50 bucks. I’ll order the right oil but amazon has it for 116 for 12 quarts . Anybody got better prices ? Last edited by Therealbigrich; 03-09-2020 at 03:02 PM.

03-09-2020, 05:15 PM	#6
L78toLT1 Drives: Hyper Blue 2016 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: North Ga Posts: 1,786	I notice you only have one bottle of differential fluid. You're going to need another bottle. I can't recall the capacity, but it's more than a quart. I seem to recall that it's 1.4, but don't take my word for it, check the owners manual __________________ Baby Blue 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned

03-14-2020, 10:28 AM	#13
slimjim2525 Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 135	I went with Castrol Edge 0w40. I got it off this list, and by BITOG recommendation. It does not say dexos2 on the jug, but here it is on their list from GM. https://www.gmdexos.com/brands/dexos2/index.html __________________ 2019 Camaro 2SS, Shadow Grey

03-11-2020, 10:00 PM	#10
JROC Account Suspended Drives: 19 Camaro SS 1LE, 03 Ford Lightning Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: South Carolina Posts: 334	Just do like me and run whatever brand synthetic in the recommended weight you want. From my understanding oil companies have to pay for that Dexo2 badge and many just say fudge it. Why do I use oil that's not Dexo2? Because Pennzoil Ultra > Mobil 1, Rotella T6 > Mobil 1, Motul > Mobil 1, Redline > Mobil 1. Let's just use Mobil 1 to represent any current Dexo2 labeled oil in our cars recommended oil weight. I'm not going to be a slave to GM's Dexo2 rating and run an oil I don't like over ones I'm personally fond of. I you only feel comfortable running Dexo2 labeled oil then I say that's okay, and more power to you. They're still good oils.

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