New nhra rule, no more roll bar!

parish8 · 09-20-2018, 02:36 PM

http://promod.nhra.com/Userfiles/Fil...09-18-2018.pdf

Page 6

This is a pretty big deal and about time. I hope I am understanding these changes correctly.

Cage still kicks in below 10.0 et

danhr · 09-20-2018, 02:41 PM

unless you are on slicks?

why did I get pro bracket radials?!?!?!?

parish8 · 09-20-2018, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by danhr

unless you are on slicks?

why did I get pro bracket radials?!?!?!?

I suspect most tracks won’t look that close. I noticed this year our track let us run faster than 7.35 without bitching. I wonder if they knew this rule was on the way.

If they do bitch about tires I will make sure to run dot tires. Way better than a roll bar.

danhr · 09-20-2018, 02:51 PM

just the idea of no longer having to make the decision of whether or not to roll bar is good enough for me. I've had a few friends that got roll bars and soon regretted that decision because not a year later, they were ripping them out and doing a cage.

wnta1ss · 09-21-2018, 06:16 AM

Very good news parish8.

laynlo15 · 09-21-2018, 06:37 AM

Well I already installed mine last winter and I do run slicks and I doubt they will lower bar on the 6 pt so basically I'm stuck in the middle as now that I'm doing a motor rebuild and will probably see some 9.70's if I can get it done before the end of the season because the 6pt bolt in bar went down to 9.99. Oh well I'm safer at any speed and I do run about 140 now so I really need it anyway.

parish8 · 09-21-2018, 07:05 AM

That is the thing. I have my doubts you are any safer with the roll bar. I am fairly certain a full cage would make a car less safe for any kind of street driving. I am really happy they are fixing this.

Maybe they will be a little slack and let people bump into the 9’s? If nothing else it will be easier to shave a little et if you only have to get down to a 10.0 and then make a glory run on the way out the door.

danhr · 09-21-2018, 08:23 AM

Well this all started with the c6 z06 and the fact you couldnt run it, even in its factory configuration, at the drag strip...... so if car companies just start coming out with factory 9 second cars.... then we will probably see some relaxation on the 9.99 et

parish8 · 09-21-2018, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danhr

Well this all started with the c6 z06 and the fact you couldnt run it, even in its factory configuration, at the drag strip...... so if car companies just start coming out with factory 9 second cars.... then we will probably see some relaxation on the 9.99 et

Yeah, they have had this rule for awhile but it only applies to unaltered cars. They took the unaltered part out but added you must have the factory safety equipment.

DFW1LE · 09-21-2018, 09:56 AM

So if you have a 15" conversion, that would be a problem???

parish8 · 09-21-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DFW1LE

So if you have a 15" conversion, that would be a problem???

Previously yes. With the new rule no. You can have mods now as long as you didn’t remove any airbags, abs or anything like that. In reality they won’t check for any of that but if your car is completely gutted they might call you on it.

DFW1LE · 09-21-2018, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by parish8

Previously yes. With the new rule no. You can have mods now as long as you didn’t remove any airbags, abs or anything like that. In reality they won’t check for any of that but if your car is completely gutted they might call you on it.

I'm confused, didn't it say:
Unaltered OEM installed anti-lock brakes, airbag functions, as well as
all other OEM safety related systems must be functioning as per manufacturer’s
specifications.

How is a 15" conversion consider unaltered OEM anti-lock brakes?

parish8 · 09-21-2018, 01:22 PM

I guess it could be interpreted that way. They are still abs. I would be surprised if they put that much thought into it.

danhr · 09-22-2018, 05:55 PM

X2.... I think it's just if you still have the abs system... because things like line locks would disqualify you

09-20-2018, 02:36 PM	#1
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	New nhra rule, no more roll bar! http://promod.nhra.com/Userfiles/Fil...09-18-2018.pdf Page 6 This is a pretty big deal and about time. I hope I am understanding these changes correctly. Cage still kicks in below 10.0 et __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472

09-20-2018, 02:41 PM	#2
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	unless you are on slicks? why did I get pro bracket radials?!?!?!? __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

09-20-2018, 02:51 PM	#4
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	just the idea of no longer having to make the decision of whether or not to roll bar is good enough for me. I've had a few friends that got roll bars and soon regretted that decision because not a year later, they were ripping them out and doing a cage. __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

09-21-2018, 06:37 AM	#6
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Well I already installed mine last winter and I do run slicks and I doubt they will lower bar on the 6 pt so basically I'm stuck in the middle as now that I'm doing a motor rebuild and will probably see some 9.70's if I can get it done before the end of the season because the 6pt bolt in bar went down to 9.99. Oh well I'm safer at any speed and I do run about 140 now so I really need it anyway. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

09-21-2018, 07:05 AM	#7
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	That is the thing. I have my doubts you are any safer with the roll bar. I am fairly certain a full cage would make a car less safe for any kind of street driving. I am really happy they are fixing this. Maybe they will be a little slack and let people bump into the 9’s? If nothing else it will be easier to shave a little et if you only have to get down to a 10.0 and then make a glory run on the way out the door. __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472

09-21-2018, 06:16 AM	#5
wnta1ss Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NH Posts: 1,692	Very good news parish8.

09-21-2018, 08:23 AM	#8
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	Well this all started with the c6 z06 and the fact you couldnt run it, even in its factory configuration, at the drag strip...... so if car companies just start coming out with factory 9 second cars.... then we will probably see some relaxation on the 9.99 et __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

09-21-2018, 09:56 AM	#10
DFW1LE Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Mosiac Black Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,132	So if you have a 15" conversion, that would be a problem??? __________________ ________________________________________________ Frankenstein Engineering Dynamics Stage 1 H/C/E85 536HP/488TQ

09-21-2018, 01:22 PM	#13
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	I guess it could be interpreted that way. They are still abs. I would be surprised if they put that much thought into it. __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472

09-22-2018, 05:55 PM	#14
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	X2.... I think it's just if you still have the abs system... because things like line locks would disqualify you __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

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