2016 Camaro V6 LGX Dyno Test @ Phastek Performance - Page 3

132SSLE · 02-09-2016, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricardo@Phastek

SOON!!

I have been calling all the manufacturers we deal with every couple of weeks to stay on top of the waiting game. I keep getting told soon.

You should add me to some sort of list so AS soon as you can order me some parts I can buy them from you!

Also I see you have the GM performance exhaust listed have you heard it installed? is it worth it?

b4z · 02-10-2016, 07:15 AM

241 hp is a terrible number for a 335 hp motor.

Ricardo@Phastek · 02-10-2016, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 132SSLE

You should add me to some sort of list so AS soon as you can order me some parts I can buy them from you!

Also I see you have the GM performance exhaust listed have you heard it installed? is it worth it?

I have not heard the GM exhaust or seen it other then pictures. I could not tell you if its worth it or not.

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Originally Posted by b4z

241 hp is a terrible number for a 335 hp motor.

Believe me we were as surprised as you to see the numbers so low. We were hoping to see in the range of 260-270.

Goblue1313 · 02-10-2016, 01:12 PM

Isn't the drivetrain loss on the SS around 15%? The V8 is dropping to 400-405 on the dyno I believe. A 50-55hp loss. This V6 lost 94hp?!! That's around 28% drivetrain loss. Am I figuring that correct? The gearing between the LT and the SS is close so surprised there is that big of a difference in loss.

Shadowsong · 02-10-2016, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Goblue1313

Isn't the drivetrain loss on the SS around 15%? The V8 is dropping to 400-405 on the dyno I believe. A 50-55hp loss. This V6 lost 94hp?!! That's around 28% drivetrain loss. Am I figuring that correct? The gearing between the LT and the SS is close so surprised there is that big of a difference in loss.

I'm sure a lot of it has to do with not dynoing in the 1:1 gear, and hitting the speed limiter before they could hit redline. I'm sure the car is probably making closer to 270ish at the wheels.

freddyD · 03-12-2016, 07:25 AM

yeah those numbers seem low-but my 16v6 is alot faster than my 14.

meissen · 09-26-2016, 07:20 AM

That number does seem low. I just had a dyno day this past weekend and my 2016 v6 automatic with NPP dyno'd at 277rwhp.

Interestingly enough, exactly the same rwhp as my 2014 Camaro v6 *6spd manual*

keysersoze · 09-26-2016, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by meissen

That number does seem low. I just had a dyno day this past weekend and my 2016 v6 automatic with NPP dyno'd at 277rwhp.

Interestingly enough, exactly the same rwhp as my 2014 Camaro v6 *6spd manual*

well this car is around 300 pounds lighter and has almost no bump in power from GEN5 so I would expect the same RWHP.

Rsblueblood · 09-26-2016, 06:07 PM

Yea Holley Performance had mine they said the dyno hit
271.17 HP
237.35 LB.FT Torque

bdar66 · 09-27-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsblueblood

Yea Holley Performance had mine they said the dyno hit
271.17 HP
237.35 LB.FT Torque

m6? and was that at the limiter in the 1:1 gear? or was the limiter removed?

Rsblueblood · 09-27-2016, 09:24 PM

Sorry took me a while to answer back , that is a A8 and to answer you're second part I don't know I wasn't there sorry.

cellsafemode · 09-27-2016, 11:08 PM

0-60 and quarter mile seems to be fairly obvious that the dyno testing is being hampered by top end speed at telling what peak hp is.

But more importantly it's telling us that peak horsepower / torque is not as important as people would like us to think it is.

What's important is the avg hp and torque for the speeds (power band) you see in actual real life use of the vehicle. And it seems definitive that where it actually matters (less than 160mph) ...the lgx is quite the beast compared to the lfx and in past motors (be them v8's or not) before it.

Evil-Bee-NH · 10-02-2016, 10:43 AM

Coming from a 2011 V6 LLT I can say the motors are awesome the 270hp range seems more logical those with run-flats have the limiters set at 155-158MPH those running A/S from factory I think are still around 128MPH on the limiter. They are clearly set for safety factors in mind. My 2017 LTG just put down some crazy numbers on the dyno yesterday on a dyno that had 5th Gen numbers consistent with everyone elses. We had a mostly stock V8 with an Intake was around 364RWHP. A few cammed and tuned ones running 462 and 471RWHP.

12blkgrayRS · 10-04-2016, 03:39 PM

I don't know, for 241hp I was keeping up with a 15 SS pretty well on the freeway one day...

09-26-2016, 07:20 AM	#35
meissen Founder - Michigan FBody Drives: 1994 Camaro LT1, 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Haven, MI Posts: 2,599	That number does seem low. I just had a dyno day this past weekend and my 2016 v6 automatic with NPP dyno'd at 277rwhp. Interestingly enough, exactly the same rwhp as my 2014 Camaro v6 6spd manual __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 - *"Zooma"* 1994 Camaro LT1 A4 - *"Red Alert"* - v6-to-LT1 Swapped Cruiser; Cammed, Stalled, Enjoyed "Gone But Not Forgotten" 2016 Camaro 1LT A8 - "Elmo" 2014 Camaro 1LT M6 - "Cherry Bomb" 2012 Camaro 1LS M6 - "Clifford" Michigan FBody Association http://www.mifbody.com/

10-02-2016, 10:43 AM	#41
Evil-Bee-NH 603 Camaros Drives: 2017 NGM I4 1LT Coupe Join Date: May 2012 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 6,779 View My Garage	Coming from a 2011 V6 LLT I can say the motors are awesome the 270hp range seems more logical those with run-flats have the limiters set at 155-158MPH those running A/S from factory I think are still around 128MPH on the limiter. They are clearly set for safety factors in mind. My 2017 LTG just put down some crazy numbers on the dyno yesterday on a dyno that had 5th Gen numbers consistent with everyone elses. We had a mostly stock V8 with an Intake was around 364RWHP. A few cammed and tuned ones running 462 and 471RWHP. __________________ MY 2017 I4 CAMARO BUILD JOURNAL \| YOUTUBE \| INSTAGRAM \| 316RWHP - 385 RWTQ HPTUNERS DYNO TUNE \| 12.693s @ 105MPH 1/4 Mile

02-10-2016, 07:15 AM	#30
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	241 hp is a terrible number for a 335 hp motor.

02-10-2016, 01:12 PM	#32
Goblue1313 Drives: F350 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: SC Posts: 56	Isn't the drivetrain loss on the SS around 15%? The V8 is dropping to 400-405 on the dyno I believe. A 50-55hp loss. This V6 lost 94hp?!! That's around 28% drivetrain loss. Am I figuring that correct? The gearing between the LT and the SS is close so surprised there is that big of a difference in loss.

03-12-2016, 07:25 AM	#34
freddyD Drives: 2020 rally green rs Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 1,159	yeah those numbers seem low-but my 16v6 is alot faster than my 14.

09-26-2016, 06:07 PM	#37
Rsblueblood Kywildcats Drives: 2020 2SS shock and steel (shocker) Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Kentucky Posts: 232	Yea Holley Performance had mine they said the dyno hit 271.17 HP 237.35 LB.FT Torque

09-27-2016, 09:24 PM	#39
Rsblueblood Kywildcats Drives: 2020 2SS shock and steel (shocker) Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Kentucky Posts: 232	Sorry took me a while to answer back , that is a A8 and to answer you're second part I don't know I wasn't there sorry.

09-27-2016, 11:08 PM	#40
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,491	0-60 and quarter mile seems to be fairly obvious that the dyno testing is being hampered by top end speed at telling what peak hp is. But more importantly it's telling us that peak horsepower / torque is not as important as people would like us to think it is. What's important is the avg hp and torque for the speeds (power band) you see in actual real life use of the vehicle. And it seems definitive that where it actually matters (less than 160mph) ...the lgx is quite the beast compared to the lfx and in past motors (be them v8's or not) before it.

10-04-2016, 03:39 PM	#42
12blkgrayRS Drives: 2012 Camaro RS 2LT 6spd man Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Dickinson, Texas Posts: 535	I don't know, for 241hp I was keeping up with a 15 SS pretty well on the freeway one day...

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