[mkorgan]

Any chance they make pricing and ordering status announcement in NY?

[mlee]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Any chance they make pricing and ordering status announcement in NY?

Not a chance. That normally comes out right before ordering starts.

[mkorgan]

Originally Posted by mlee

Not a chance. That normally comes out right before ordering starts.

Ok, so this question may require its own thread...if so I apologize....but why release a car like the 1LE and the ZL1 without having a specific plan to quickly follow it with pricing and availability information?

I imagine that there are quite a few folks not buying an SS now because the are waiting for information on the 1LE and then you compound that with the announcement of the ZL1. I understand wanting to generate excitement and that they have done but I just don't understand the logic associated with keeping your customer base guessing rather than buying.

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Ok, so this question may require its own thread...if so I apologize....but why release a car like the 1LE and the ZL1 without having a specific plan to quickly follow it with pricing and availability information?

I imagine that there are quite a few folks not buying an SS now because the are waiting for information on the 1LE and then you compound that with the announcement of the ZL1. I understand wanting to generate excitement and that they have done but I just don't understand the logic associated with keeping your customer base guessing rather than buying.

maybe they are shoring up costs, negotiating contracts and yada yada for supply chain, labor etc. in order to make sure they can provide us the best price possible...get their target margins etc.

i dont know if this stuff would already be in place at this stage or not. if they have all they need to price it then perhaps there is some competetive market strategy at play

[90503]

I'd say they have released availability info....pricing and ordering will be in line with the rest of the '17 Model Year, and availability "late in '16"....That in itself is a pretty good headsup. If the 1LE and ZL-1 were to be '16 Model Year cars, then, yeah, we should be given the pricing info now. but they are '17s....

The convertible pricing was made known right away, as it will be available on '16s....

[mkorgan]

Originally Posted by 90503

I'd say they have released availability info....pricing and ordering will be in line with the rest of the '17 Model Year, and availability "late in '16"....That in itself is a pretty good headsup. If the 1LE and ZL-1 were to be '16 Model Year cars, then, yeah, we should be given the pricing info now. but they are '17s....

The convertible pricing was made known right away, as it will be available on '16s....

Well, let me ask the next question. Maybe our friendly moderator who was at the unveiling will know. The Z/28 had a dealer allocation process based on a very limited production number. The Z06 also has a dealer allocation though a higher production # than the Z/28. The dealer I will be buying my ZL1 from told me the day of the release they expect the ZL1 to have a dealer allocation much like the Z06 (which they got 39 of based on being a very high volume dealer). So, will this complicate things for the ZL1 like it did for the Z/28 or will we be able to go into a dealer and order one like they can an SS? I know we don't have answers right now but I am going out of my mind thinking of little things like this.

[oakaro68]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Well, let me ask the next question. Maybe our friendly moderator who was at the unveiling will know. The Z/28 had a dealer allocation process based on a very limited production number. The Z06 also has a dealer allocation though a higher production # than the Z/28. The dealer I will be buying my ZL1 from told me the day of the release they expect the ZL1 to have a dealer allocation much like the Z06 (which they got 39 of based on being a very high volume dealer). So, will this complicate things for the ZL1 like it did for the Z/28 or will we be able to go into a dealer and order one like they can an SS? I know we don't have answers right now but I am going out of my mind thinking of little things like this.

Very interesting point... I sure hope we can order them from the factory

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Any chance they make pricing and ordering status announcement in NY?

Originally Posted by mlee

Not a chance. That normally comes out right before ordering starts.

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Well, let me ask the next question. Maybe our friendly moderator who was at the unveiling will know.

Im sure he has an idea. But if he told, he would probably never be invited to another GM event. Nor would he have their trust anymore either. Not worth it. Pricing will probably be released the same way it's always been. A month before ordering begins.

[GoneBoy]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Ok, so this question may require its own thread...if so I apologize....but why release a car like the 1LE and the ZL1 without having a specific plan to quickly follow it with pricing and availability information?

Because on-the-job productivity for many of us has steadily declined by double digit percentages each month as we scoured the web all day searching for updates. GM did this so we can remain employed up till whenever they finally decide to open up their ordering books.

Originally Posted by mkorgan

I imagine that there are quite a few folks not buying an SS now because the are waiting for information on the 1LE and then you compound that with the announcement of the ZL1. I understand wanting to generate excitement and that they have done but I just don't understand the logic associated with keeping your customer base guessing rather than buying.

That may be true. But there's a whole other subset of folks who have been waiting specifically for the zl1 and 1le. They were never going to buy an ss to begin with. And I don't think it's that much of a guess anymore. We have all the basic info on both models except pricing, which you can pretty much guestimate. I think the general consensus is that the 1le may hover around the 2SS price, while the the ZL1 be in the low to mid $60's, plus options.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Ok, so this question may require its own thread...if so I apologize....but why release a car like the 1LE and the ZL1 without having a specific plan to quickly follow it with pricing and availability information?

I imagine that there are quite a few folks not buying an SS now because the are waiting for information on the 1LE and then you compound that with the announcement of the ZL1. I understand wanting to generate excitement and that they have done but I just don't understand the logic associated with keeping your customer base guessing rather than buying.

Technically, neither the 1LE or the ZL1 has been "released", yet. They've been unveiled, with little information like you've said.

They have a plan to release information, but pricing (among other things) are some of the very last bits of information they finalize. And you don't tell people any information (or even guesses) unless you're sure.

Excitement and wow-factor is the primary purpose of these bits of news. While some people who might have been in the market for an SS and are waiting, others still may have been in the market for Mustangs, Challengers, or other cars that are waiting, too. Plus, the magazines are having a field day, and put Chevy, Camaro, and ZL1 in the news. That's all good.

Originally Posted by 90503

I'd say they have released availability info....pricing and ordering will be in line with the rest of the '17 Model Year, and availability "late in '16"....That in itself is a pretty good headsup.

Originally Posted by mkorgan

Well, let me ask the next question. Maybe our friendly moderator who was at the unveiling will know. The Z/28 had a dealer allocation process based on a very limited production number. The Z06 also has a dealer allocation though a higher production # than the Z/28. The dealer I will be buying my ZL1 from told me the day of the release they expect the ZL1 to have a dealer allocation much like the Z06 (which they got 39 of based on being a very high volume dealer). So, will this complicate things for the ZL1 like it did for the Z/28 or will we be able to go into a dealer and order one like they can an SS? I know we don't have answers right now but I am going out of my mind thinking of little things like this.

I don't pretend to full understand how allocation works. I imagine the dealer you're talking to is not far off the mark. Every vehicle, every dealership, every manufacturer is affected by the allocations process. Its purpose is to enable fairness and stability to the dealer franchise system. So it's largely based on sales history, regional demographics, and sales projections.

But make no mistake, the ZL1 will not be limited in sales, or terribly "low" like the Z/28 was.

Originally Posted by GoneBoy

Because on-the-job productivity for many of us has steadily declined by double digit percentages each month as we scoured the web all day searching for updates. GM did this so we can remain employed up till whenever they finally decide to open up their ordering books.

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

I don't pretend to full understand how allocation works. I imagine the dealer you're talking to is not far off the mark. Every vehicle, every dealership, every manufacturer is affected by the allocations process. Its purpose is to enable fairness and stability to the dealer franchise system. So it's largely based on sales history, regional demographics, and sales projections.

But make no mistake, the ZL1 will not be limited in sales, or terribly "low" like the Z/28 was.

Do you think there will be a ZL1 allocation or do you think it will just be in the regular Camaro allocation so as long as your dealership has an allocation of Camaros you'll be able to use one to order a ZL1?

[Sven59]

If it went like the 5th gen, dealers will get specific ZL1 allocations, my dealer got three last time.

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[cal45]

Originally Posted by Eric SS

Do you think there will be a ZL1 allocation or do you think it will just be in the regular Camaro allocation so as long as your dealership has an allocation of Camaros you'll be able to use one to order a ZL1?

There will be ZL1 allocations just like there were Hellcat allocations.....count on it.

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[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Eric SS

Do you think there will be a ZL1 allocation or do you think it will just be in the regular Camaro allocation so as long as your dealership has an allocation of Camaros you'll be able to use one to order a ZL1?

History has the answer to that question...