[JSH]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I also drive my car hard.

I doubt anyone drives their car harder than I do, day in, day out. Regarding the SC3R, I found it unsafe on the street unless on a 80-90F sunny day and 30 min of warmup driving, which pretty much what it's specs say.

On the other hand, the 4S is Tire rack's highest rated ultra performance tire for dry and wet driving, but after adding 200 hp, there's no way to "launch" or anything close to it. I can avoid spin tire by going to WOT in manual in 3rd gear at 2500 rpm. I'm trying various speeds/rpm to avoid tire spin in 2nd gear. WOT in 1st is out of the question.

In summary, I have greatly reduced tire spin by driving in manual and avoiding downshifts when I want to let it eat.

[WhiteMale]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

PS4S are expensive, wow!
Never really thought about all seasons for the desert, but they seem much more affordable. Discount tire has Bridgestone potenza for $242 w/ 50k mile warranty.
Got some some making to do.
Thanks everyone.

You should ask for yourself but manuf warranties are halved in a staggered setup due to lack of ability to rotate.

[AZIROC]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

Any reason why I should try a new tire brand?
No snow, very little rain, no track, weekend car only.
Thanks

I'm in Phoenix and my zl1 is just a "fun" car. No where near a daily let alone will see rain/snow. Ive been going back and forth on tires and decided ill prob stay with the sc3's vs ps4s. The Michelins definitely get better mileage out of them, but for our summers I feel the sc3s would be better.... they will just need change ged out quicker (prob ever 2-3 years for me as I dont plan on putting more than 4k miles a year on it).

[WhiteMale]

Don't overlook another tire, the Conti ExtremeContact Sport. I put a set on my 1LE and really like them.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by JSH

I doubt anyone drives their car harder than I do, day in, day out. Regarding the SC3R, I found it unsafe on the street unless on a 80-90F sunny day and 30 min of warmup driving, which pretty much what it's specs say.

On the other hand, the 4S is Tire rack's highest rated ultra performance tire for dry and wet driving, but after adding 200 hp, there's no way to "launch" or anything close to it. I can avoid spin tire by going to WOT in manual in 3rd gear at 2500 rpm. I'm trying various speeds/rpm to avoid tire spin in 2nd gear. WOT in 1st is out of the question.

In summary, I have greatly reduced tire spin by driving in manual and avoiding downshifts when I want to let it eat.

Yes, but that is the SC3 R's

I was talking about the regular SC3's in my post. Are you in the ZL1 1LE?

[JSH]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Are you in the ZL1 1LE?

yes

[CRBWS6]

Aragorn,

I see you are also in PHX. Last week I removed a set of low mileage MPS4s off my 1LE. They are a great tire, but not even close to the SC3 for AutoX use.

Let me know if you might be interested in a purchase (or trade if your SC3's have much life left?).

I was planning to hold on to them in case I end up getting a dedicated wheel/tire set for track, but a local sale is compelling.

Half day on the road course and the fresh SC3's already have noticeable wear.....but well worth it

[kropscamaro16]

Originally Posted by CRBWS6

Aragorn,

I see you are also in PHX. Last week I removed a set of low mileage MPS4s off my 1LE. They are a great tire, but not even close to the SC3 for AutoX use.

Let me know if you might be interested in a purchase (or trade if your SC3's have much life left?).

I was planning to hold on to them in case I end up getting a dedicated wheel/tire set for track, but a local sale is compelling.

Half day on the road course and the fresh SC3's already have noticeable wear.....but well worth it

i just did my first track day on them on sunday only 3 sessions since 4th one got rained out will inspect them this weekend but pretty sure i need more front camber !

[CRBWS6]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

i just did my first track day on them on sunday only 3 sessions since 4th one got rained out will inspect them this weekend but pretty sure i need more front camber !

I only had around -2.0 front and the wear on the road course was actually pretty even; didn't roll onto the wingfeet. Planning to max it out for AutoX though.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by JSH

yes

Ah, I missed that.

They do make the regular SC3 tires in ZLE sizes too, that is a good middle ground between the SC3 R's and the PS4's

[kropscamaro16]

Originally Posted by CRBWS6

I only had around -2.0 front and the wear on the road course was actually pretty even; didn't roll onto the wingfeet. Planning to max it out for AutoX though.

yea im 2.2- front 1.5 rear trying to see if i want to order some camber plates or not i dont street the car much but i do drive it to and from events so hmm

[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by WhiteMale

Don't overlook another tire, the Conti ExtremeContact Sport. I put a set on my 1LE and really like them.

I’ve seen that one also, will check it out. Thanks!

[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by CRBWS6

Aragorn,

I see you are also in PHX. Last week I removed a set of low mileage MPS4s off my 1LE. They are a great tire, but not even close to the SC3 for AutoX use.

Let me know if you might be interested in a purchase (or trade if your SC3's have much life left?).

I was planning to hold on to them in case I end up getting a dedicated wheel/tire set for track, but a local sale is compelling.

Half day on the road course and the fresh SC3's already have noticeable wear.....but well worth it

PM’d you. Thanks!

[DaveC113]

Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

yea im 2.2- front 1.5 rear trying to see if i want to order some camber plates or not i dont street the car much but i do drive it to and from events so hmm

I think plates are a good idea, a local CAM-C guy runs 3.2f 2.5r, he's a GM master tech and nat'l champ driver. I'll get plates but not sure I can go more than 1.5r w/o toe links, we'll see... Also, I'm running 2.3/1.5 and need more camber for even wear both front and rear, even with a lot of road driving... but a lot of that driving is on curvy mt roads.