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Kings2010 · 09-25-2015, 09:42 PM

Looking at the graphs the night fury appears to cross the 400tq line about 3300ish rpm, which looks to be a few hundred rpm before the polluter. And the night fury makes peak tq about 500-600 earlier as well. Just food for thought.

GONIF · 09-26-2015, 11:56 AM

Something to think about is fuel , in Calli you have 91 not 93 . The boys over at CPR in Mesa AZ have got a cam and tuner that makes the most power on 91 octane weasel piss gas I have seen . They call it a Defibulator or something like that . With headers, cai, ported heads , ported TB that cam, and a Nic D tune they are putting down 500 rwhp with great drivability on 91 octane fuel . What I'm saying is , it is the sum of all the parts and tune that will get your best numbers and performance in a real world situation .

WHAMMO · 09-26-2015, 06:58 PM

Great post OP! Both cam performed great! 480rwhp cam only is nice!!

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 09-27-2015, 10:54 PM

You should have the shop overlay the two graphs.

Squishy · 09-28-2015, 09:24 AM

The TSP 235/238 is a monster when it comes to HP gain, Torque suffers a bit but the RWHP increase in unbelievable. Would love to see Dyno numbers for that cam on a stock car.

CGT · 09-28-2015, 09:44 AM

Its amazing to me how different dynojets read from one to another. These sheets are listed in SAE format, while I see a lot listed using STD.

But yet both of these sheets read a little higher than they would on the dyno I use. Cam only cars are generally 440 to 460 on that one. And he has alot of them on there.

More reason to go by mph at the track when comparing one to another, or control conditions on the same dyno the best you can. Regardless, nice results from both cars. Congratulations

Jason 98 TA · 09-28-2015, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Squishy

The TSP 235/238 is a monster when it comes to HP gain, Torque suffers a bit but the RWHP increase in unbelievable. Would love to see Dyno numbers for that cam on a stock car.

Actually I'll take that bet on how the torque compares to the other camshafts being discussed. I have personally engine dyno tested a ton of different profiles next to the TSP camshafts. In fact I've tested several competitors camshafts next to the tsp grinds.

Our new facility is suppose to be finished in November. I'd be happy to set aside some engine dyno time if a bunch of guys wants to show up with different camshafts and we do a all day or two side by side shootout of anything you wanna try.

Taco Time · 09-28-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

Actually I'll take that bet on how the torque compares to the other camshafts being discussed. I have personally engine dyno tested a ton of different profiles next to the TSP camshafts. In fact I've tested several competitors camshafts next to the tsp grinds.

Our new facility is suppose to be finished in November. I'd be happy to set aside some engine dyno time if a bunch of guys wants to show up with different camshafts and we do a all day or two side by side shootout of anything you wanna try.

Wish y'all were in Houston! I'd love to see that. That'd be about as accurate and objective as you could get.

Badfinger · 09-28-2015, 10:04 AM

CGT · 09-28-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

Actually I'll take that bet on how the torque compares to the other camshafts being discussed. I have personally engine dyno tested a ton of different profiles next to the TSP camshafts. In fact I've tested several competitors camshafts next to the tsp grinds.

Our new facility is suppose to be finished in November. I'd be happy to set aside some engine dyno time if a bunch of guys wants to show up with different camshafts and we do a all day or two side by side shootout of anything you wanna try.

Whats a cam only 235 239 TSP cam make on a LS3 on your engine dyno?

1989GTA · 09-28-2015, 12:37 PM

"Its amazing to me how different dynojets read from one to another."

A lot of people do not realize that. Also whether 91 octane was used or 93 octane.

Bo White · 09-28-2015, 04:54 PM

Reason I like Dyno Days. Everyone one the same day same dyno.

Martin@Tick · 09-30-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

Actually I'll take that bet on how the torque compares to the other camshafts being discussed. I have personally engine dyno tested a ton of different profiles next to the TSP camshafts. In fact I've tested several competitors camshafts next to the tsp grinds.

Our new facility is suppose to be finished in November. I'd be happy to set aside some engine dyno time if a bunch of guys wants to show up with different camshafts and we do a all day or two side by side shootout of anything you wanna try.

Have you ever tested one of our LS3 Polluter cams?

For those that like torque, here are some more results from our Polluter:

Martin@Tick · 09-30-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kings2010

Looking at the graphs the night fury appears to cross the 400tq line about 3300ish rpm, which looks to be a few hundred rpm before the polluter. And the night fury makes peak tq about 500-600 earlier as well. Just food for thought.

From what I can see, it makes 400rwtq around 3450-3500rpm and the Polluter is right behind it at 3600rpm.

Even though it does peak sooner in terms of torque production, at the RPM the Night Fury peaks, the Polluter is no less than 3-5 rwtq behind, and holds that torque longer giving a slight advantage up top.

Both are great proven camshafts, and that is what matters. For you guys looking for the best results time and time again, use something that has walked the walked as well as talked the talk.

Results are what matters at the end of the day, not so much brand loyalty or shop loyalty in this instance.

09-26-2015, 11:56 AM	#16
GONIF Drives: 73 VETTE ,, 05 2500hd diesel,14 1LE Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The Left lane PHOENIX AZ Posts: 2,626	Something to think about is fuel , in Calli you have 91 not 93 . The boys over at CPR in Mesa AZ have got a cam and tuner that makes the most power on 91 octane weasel piss gas I have seen . They call it a Defibulator or something like that . With headers, cai, ported heads , ported TB that cam, and a Nic D tune they are putting down 500 rwhp with great drivability on 91 octane fuel . What I'm saying is , it is the sum of all the parts and tune that will get your best numbers and performance in a real world situation . __________________ OLD GUY FLYING FAST AND LOW Last edited by GONIF; 09-26-2015 at 12:15 PM.

09-26-2015, 06:58 PM	#17
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,642	Great post OP! Both cam performed great! 480rwhp cam only is nice!! __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.

09-28-2015, 09:24 AM	#19
Squishy Drives: 2016 camaro 1SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Miami Posts: 350	The TSP 235/238 is a monster when it comes to HP gain, Torque suffers a bit but the RWHP increase in unbelievable. Would love to see Dyno numbers for that cam on a stock car. __________________ . 2016 BLK Camaro 1SS/LT1 M6: NPP \| black front/rear bowtie \| Blacked out taillights 2011 IOM Camaro 1SS/RS LS3: Stainless works 1 7/8" LT headers w/ Offroad pipes \| TSP Cam 235/239 on a 112 \| Powerbound 25% UD Pulley Roto-Fab Cold Air Intake \| SW Retro Chambered Catback Exhaust \| VMax Ported TB \| Hurst Short Throw Shifter Trunnion upgrade \| LSA Oil Pump \| BMR 1.25 Spings \| R1 Concept d/s Rotors *Tuned by Lashway Motorsports - 501 Hp 430 ft-lb*

09-25-2015, 09:42 PM	#15
Kings2010 Drives: 2005 C6, 2013 ZL1 2020 Ram Cummins Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Posts: 192	Looking at the graphs the night fury appears to cross the 400tq line about 3300ish rpm, which looks to be a few hundred rpm before the polluter. And the night fury makes peak tq about 500-600 earlier as well. Just food for thought.

09-27-2015, 10:54 PM	#18
Ivan @ Southwest Speed Drives: '15 Z06, '01 NBM SS, '97 SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 12,170	You should have the shop overlay the two graphs.

09-28-2015, 09:44 AM	#20
CGT Drives: 2011 SSm6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: St.Louis Posts: 355	Its amazing to me how different dynojets read from one to another. These sheets are listed in SAE format, while I see a lot listed using STD. But yet both of these sheets read a little higher than they would on the dyno I use. Cam only cars are generally 440 to 460 on that one. And he has alot of them on there. More reason to go by mph at the track when comparing one to another, or control conditions on the same dyno the best you can. Regardless, nice results from both cars. Congratulations

09-28-2015, 10:04 AM	#23
Badfinger Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 387 View My Garage

09-28-2015, 12:37 PM	#25
1989GTA Drives: 1989 GTA Trans Am Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Cypress, California Posts: 610	"Its amazing to me how different dynojets read from one to another." A lot of people do not realize that. Also whether 91 octane was used or 93 octane.

09-28-2015, 04:54 PM	#26
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Reason I like Dyno Days. Everyone one the same day same dyno.