Is this an overly expensive quote?

gaveup · 08-11-2020, 10:35 AM

In talks with a local(ish) shop on getting some first mods done to my car, and I am not entirely sure if their pricing is on the higher side.

What they are offering:
- ATI Lower Crank Balancer
- 15% Lower Supercharger Drive Pulley
- HD RPM Series Drive Belt
- Roto Fab High Flow Cold Air Intake
- 160 Degree Thermostat
- HD Crank Seal Kit
- ARP Crank Bolt
- Brisk Performance Spark Plugs
- Dyno tune w/credits

Price: $3,600

To add headers:
- ARH 1-7/8 LT's
- ARH Xpipe

Price: +$3,100

So total for all of that installed and tuned: $6700 + tax (obviously).

Does that seem high to you guys? After pricing out the parts themselves, it seems around 40-50% of this is labor(unless I am calculating this incorrectly).

ZX-10R · 08-11-2020, 10:56 AM

Seems very reasonable to me

JonDaddy82 · 08-11-2020, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

In talks with a local(ish) shop on getting some first mods done to my car, and I am not entirely sure if their pricing is on the higher side.

What they are offering:
- ATI Lower Crank Balancer
- 15% Lower Supercharger Drive Pulley
- HD RPM Series Drive Belt
- Roto Fab High Flow Cold Air Intake
- 160 Degree Thermostat
- HD Crank Seal Kit
- ARP Crank Bolt
- Brisk Performance Spark Plugs
- Dyno tune w/credits

Price: $3,600

To add headers:
- ARH 1-7/8 LT's
- ARH Xpipe

Price: +$3,100

So total for all of that installed and tuned: $6700 + tax (obviously).

Does that seem high to you guys? After pricing out the parts themselves, it seems around 40-50% of this is labor(unless I am calculating this incorrectly).

It certainly isn't a value, that's for sure.

I'll guess high here to make it easy.

$500 - ATI Lower Crank Balancer
$200 - 15% Lower Supercharger Drive Pulley
$80 - HD RPM Series Drive Belt
$500 - Roto Fab High Flow Cold Air Intake
$80 - 160 Degree Thermostat
$10 - HD Crank Seal Kit
$10 - ARP Crank Bolt
$100 - Brisk Performance Spark Plugs
$600 - Dyno tune w/credits

$2,080. So they're telling you it's $1,500 in labor? It would have to be 10 hours of labor at $150 an hour.

UBB · 08-11-2020, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

In talks with a local(ish) shop on getting some first mods done to my car, and I am not entirely sure if their pricing is on the higher side.

What they are offering:
- ATI Lower Crank Balancer
- 15% Lower Supercharger Drive Pulley
- HD RPM Series Drive Belt
- Roto Fab High Flow Cold Air Intake
- 160 Degree Thermostat
- HD Crank Seal Kit
- ARP Crank Bolt
- Brisk Performance Spark Plugs
- Dyno tune w/credits

Price: $3,600

To add headers:
- ARH 1-7/8 LT's
- ARH Xpipe

Price: +$3,100

So total for all of that installed and tuned: $6700 + tax (obviously).

Does that seem high to you guys? After pricing out the parts themselves, it seems around 40-50% of this is labor(unless I am calculating this incorrectly).

My opinion is based off my experience with my 5th Gen FWIW...with that said, this seems pretty high.

DFW_Muscle · 08-11-2020, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

In talks with a local(ish) shop on getting some first mods done to my car, and I am not entirely sure if their pricing is on the higher side.

What they are offering:
- ATI Lower Crank Balancer
- 15% Lower Supercharger Drive Pulley
- HD RPM Series Drive Belt
- Roto Fab High Flow Cold Air Intake
- 160 Degree Thermostat
- HD Crank Seal Kit
- ARP Crank Bolt
- Brisk Performance Spark Plugs
- Dyno tune w/credits

Price: $3,600

To add headers:
- ARH 1-7/8 LT's
- ARH Xpipe

Price: +$3,100

So total for all of that installed and tuned: $6700 + tax (obviously).

Does that seem high to you guys? After pricing out the parts themselves, it seems around 40-50% of this is labor(unless I am calculating this incorrectly).

Seems steep but not ludicrous. Based on what you calculated for parts cost, how much of the quote ($) is labor? Figure the tune could be about ~$1k alone, and depends if its an a10 and if the trans is being tuned as well. I would be interested in knowing how many hours they quoted this at to make up the labor cost.

gaveup · 08-11-2020, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFW_Muscle

Seems steep but not ludicrous. Based on what you calculated for parts cost, how much of the quote ($) is labor? Figure the tune could be about ~$1k alone, and depends if its an a10 and if the trans is being tuned as well. I would be interested in knowing how many hours they quoted this at to make up the labor cost.

I know the tune is $800 total he said (m6).

I kind of feel like outright asking for the labor cost might be a bit forward of a question.

Markoz28 · 08-11-2020, 02:43 PM

I have found tuning to be about $550 and the credits $200. So total just to tune is $750 and that is pretty much standard.

CBM ZL1 · 08-11-2020, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

I know the tune is $800 total he said (m6).

I kind of feel like outright asking for the labor cost might be a bit forward of a question.

I would ask for a break down. They shouldn't be insulted if they can justify everything

Snowwolfe · 08-11-2020, 05:36 PM

OP,
What type of power increases are you expecting with those mods?

gaveup · 08-11-2020, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowwolfe

OP,
What type of power increases are you expecting with those mods?

They claim 60whp with the first part and 100whp with the headers.

IneedAZ · 08-11-2020, 05:56 PM

If it is RPM, they have a good rep, but they do charge more than most. I got a quote from them for doing my car and they were 5-6k more than the other 4 shops.

SJFGTO · 08-12-2020, 07:30 AM

Seems right in the ballpark if it is from a quality shop experienced with the LT4.

Snowwolfe · 08-12-2020, 07:43 AM

I dont have much experience with modding cars but 100 hp added to a ZL1 seems like a perfect fit. Enough to make a difference but not to much to make the extra power difficult to handle or shred the tires at lower speeds.
Good luck if you decide to do it and please post some updates.

zx9rmal · 08-12-2020, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup

In talks with a local(ish) shop on getting some first mods done to my car, and I am not entirely sure if their pricing is on the higher side.

What they are offering:
- ATI Lower Crank Balancer
- 15% Lower Supercharger Drive Pulley
- HD RPM Series Drive Belt
- Roto Fab High Flow Cold Air Intake
- 160 Degree Thermostat
- HD Crank Seal Kit
- ARP Crank Bolt
- Brisk Performance Spark Plugs
- Dyno tune w/credits

Price: $3,600

To add headers:
- ARH 1-7/8 LT's
- ARH Xpipe

Price: +$3,100

So total for all of that installed and tuned: $6700 + tax (obviously).

Does that seem high to you guys? After pricing out the parts themselves, it seems around 40-50% of this is labor(unless I am calculating this incorrectly).

Looks like the quote I got from Redline Motorsports.

08-11-2020, 10:35 AM	#1
gaveup Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 87	Is this an overly expensive quote? In talks with a local(ish) shop on getting some first mods done to my car, and I am not entirely sure if their pricing is on the higher side. What they are offering: - ATI Lower Crank Balancer - 15% Lower Supercharger Drive Pulley - HD RPM Series Drive Belt - Roto Fab High Flow Cold Air Intake - 160 Degree Thermostat - HD Crank Seal Kit - ARP Crank Bolt - Brisk Performance Spark Plugs - Dyno tune w/credits Price: $3,600 To add headers: - ARH 1-7/8 LT's - ARH Xpipe Price: +$3,100 So total for all of that installed and tuned: $6700 + tax (obviously). Does that seem high to you guys? After pricing out the parts themselves, it seems around 40-50% of this is labor(unless I am calculating this incorrectly).

08-11-2020, 05:36 PM	#9
Snowwolfe Drives: CTV5 V Blackwing on order Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: East TN Posts: 431	OP, What type of power increases are you expecting with those mods? __________________ 2022 CT5 V Blackwing with A10 2021 GMC Denali pickup with 6.2 and A10 2017 Ford Expedition

08-11-2020, 05:56 PM	#11
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	If it is RPM, they have a good rep, but they do charge more than most. I got a quote from them for doing my car and they were 5-6k more than the other 4 shops. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

08-12-2020, 07:30 AM	#12
SJFGTO Oh Oh it's Friday Night! Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Nightfall Gray Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Walton Woods Posts: 1,061	Seems right in the ballpark if it is from a quality shop experienced with the LT4. __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE NFG; ARH 2” headers, catless mids, ARH full exhaust, Lingenfelter 18% lower pulley, ATI Harmonic Balancer, Roto-fab CAI, EE-catch can, TM ported TB, NX Lid, BMR strut tower brace. Aeroforce dual pod interceptor gauges. Tuned by Vengeance Racing!!! 644 HP @ 6250 rpm / 689 trq @ 3660 rpm Four that wanna own me Two that wanna stone me One says she's a friend of mine...

08-12-2020, 07:43 AM	#13
Snowwolfe Drives: CTV5 V Blackwing on order Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: East TN Posts: 431	I dont have much experience with modding cars but 100 hp added to a ZL1 seems like a perfect fit. Enough to make a difference but not to much to make the extra power difficult to handle or shred the tires at lower speeds. Good luck if you decide to do it and please post some updates. __________________ 2022 CT5 V Blackwing with A10 2021 GMC Denali pickup with 6.2 and A10 2017 Ford Expedition

08-11-2020, 10:56 AM	#2
ZX-10R Drives: 2019 ZL1 Riverside Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,138	Seems very reasonable to me

08-11-2020, 02:43 PM	#7
Markoz28 Drives: 18 ZL1 nightfall grey A10 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,527	I have found tuning to be about $550 and the credits $200. So total just to tune is $750 and that is pretty much standard.

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