[Drsagacity]

Originally Posted by Ricco

He said it hit 19psi at 6k rpm!


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That's beautiful. I am going to 10psi for 750whp and then race fuel to run in the mid 800's for the track. Originally, we were planning to go into the 800's, but I decided to keep in low boost on street tires...but can up it for track if we want to.

Are you planning to have drag radials for the street too?

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by Drsagacity

Are you planning to have drag radials for the street too?

No DR's, at least for now and until I see how much of a beast it is. I only just put brand new R888R's on it.

[Drsagacity]

Originally Posted by Ricco

No DR's, at least for now and until I see how much of a beast it is. I only just put brand new R888R's on it.

Ok. That's funny. I am planning to add the R888R's for the street and then I will probably get a set of 17in wheels with MT's for the track. Problem is, with a Vert you cant run in the 13's or better without a roll bar. That basically means half pulls, or a full run and getting kicked off the track. I had a personal best with my Vette running 10.2 @138. I would love to be able to beat that time with the Camaro.

You do have a good point, however. My power plans are in-part based on the tires I have. If I am cruising along at 50 and hammer it, it spins the tires (not shift chirping them). I am hoping that is not the case with the R888R's. If they stick(ish) then I will definitely up the boost for the street to 12psi (760whp - 900hp).

I may wait to see your feedback before upping the boost. If you are at 815whp, that puts you at about 915HP (figure 11% loss for manual and 15% for auto). That is really sick!

I am guessing that you will have the same experience I had on my M6 Vette when I had it running in the 800whp range...It's a fun 9 second car with a 12 second driver.

[Ricco]

So I guess it is me then, at least for the time being.

It made 854whp & 791wtq.

[Drsagacity]

Originally Posted by Ricco

So I guess it is me then, at least for the time being.

It made 854whp & 791wtq.

BAM! That's awesome.


Since yo have the A10, assuming you have a 15% drivetrain loss, you have cracked the 1000HP mark. First vert I have seen or heard of to do it.

Running 92 octane and Meth right...

That puts you right in the range with Shizzy. He's at 880whp (but not a vert)...

Next we will have to get to the track to see if the dyno number matches the trap speeds. I was hoping you had a manual so I could whip you for sure. But since you have the A10...that makes me sad. I am getting the car to the weigh station too because my sled is the 2ss...I think it's way heavier than the coupe. Maybe 300lbs or so.

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by Drsagacity

BAM! That's awesome.

I sent you a PM but it is probably something others will want to know also. On your setup, which fuel components are you running? What kind of fuel?

I think I may have you covered soon. I am waiting for the new pulley and back on the tuning...we just started with really low boost...on the other hand, depending on which fuel you are running, you might still have an ace up your sleeve.

Next we will have to get to the track to see if the dyno number matches the trap speeds. :-) I am trying to get things setup in time to get some of the track days in town so that I can try to get the vert record for 1/4. Right now, I think it's 10.2 by Stefano.

Lowside aux fuel pump and cam lobe.. stock LT4 everything else - straight 93 and meth, no E85, no race gas... yet!

Bring it on man! It’s all good, hope you get to 900! It’ll give me more reason to take it back to Matt 🤣🤣



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[Drsagacity]

Originally Posted by Ricco

Lowside aux fuel pump and cam lobe.. stock LT4 everything else - straight 93 and meth, no E85, no race gas... yet!

Bring it on man! It’s all good, hope you get to 900! It’ll give me more reason to take it back to Matt ����



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I am not worried about the dyno, I am thinking more about the 1/4 mile. Gonna try and get the car to a Kansas to run the second week of October. I was originally shooting for 700whp so I could say I have 800hp. Now, I need 760whp to say 900hp. But I will be damned...because of this video you just posted, I have to rethink my plan so that 1000hp ls the new goal. I dont even know you and I am starting to hate you already!

Dyno numbers can get tricky...but the trap speed will never lie. I see dyno as a tool...and the 1/4 mile as the reality check.

But, we can do the math we know what HP is needed to achieve a MPH and ET. As an example, a car that has 550whp and doesn't trap 128-130 isnt really running 550whp on the road (assuming 3700lb Camaro).

Moral of the story, if your dyno says 850whp and you trap below 145mph, we know it's not really 850whp on the street. So, here's to my Hope's you have a dyno queen.

Just kidding. You car is badass...

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by Drsagacity

I am not worried about the dyno, I am thinking more about the 1/4 mile. Gonna try and get the car to a Kansas to run the second week of October. I was originally shooting for 700whp so I could say I have 800hp. Now, I need 765whp to say 900hp. But I will be damned...because of this video you just posted, I have to rethink my plan so that 1000hp ls the new goal. I dont even know you and I am starting to hate you already!

Dyno numbers can get tricky...but the trap speed will never lie. I see dyno as a tool...and the 1/4 mile as the reality check.

But, we can do the math we know what HP is needed to achieve a MPH and ET. As an example, a car that has 550whp and doesn't trap 128-130 isnt really running 550whp on the road (assuming 3700lb Camaro).

Moral of the story, if your dyno says 850whp and you trap below 145mph, we know it's not really 850whp on the street. So, here's to my Hope's you have a dyno queen.

Just kidding. You car is badass...

Well I'm pretty sure my number isn't overly inflated. It was dyno'd on Mustang Dyno, aka the heart breaker, in 90+ degrees with lots of humidity (Houston Hurricane season).

Matt wants to Dyno it again when the temps drop, should see a nice bump.

In the meantime, maybe I will take it somewhere with a Dynojet and see if we can crack 900whp

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Ricco

Well I'm pretty sure my number isn't overly inflated. It was dyno'd on Mustang Dyno, aka the heart breaker, in 90+ degrees with lots of humidity (Houston Hurricane season).

Matt wants to Dyno it again when the temps drop, should see a nice bump.

In the meantime, maybe I will take it somewhere with a Dynojet and see if we can crack 900whp

Yup... your numbers will definitely be higher on a different dyno. We know Matt's dyno well. And once it cools off around here it will be even better.

Only problem you guys will have on the track is getting kicked off for no cage. I do believe we have a rental coming up in Nov though...

[Drsagacity]

Originally Posted by mlee

Yup... your numbers will definitely be higher on a different dyno. We know Matt's dyno well. And once it cools off around here it will be even better.

Only problem you guys will have on the track is getting kicked off for no cage. I do believe we have a rental coming up in Nov though...

I had that problem on my Vette too. We figure we are good for 1 full out pass every time. Otherwise, work on launch and 1/8th and then let off to stay at 13.5+

I am doing e85, but am trying to stay away from the alky injection. I know it adds a ton of headroom to advance timing.

Anyway, I have smaller pulleys on the way so I am expecting to get into the 800's also.

I wasn't talking about HP numbers being over inflated, I would be more interested in seeing if the power for a quick run on the dyno converts to the track where you are going through gears and IAT's get much hotter. In other words, a dyno shows an ideal situation, but on my previous build, my stinking P1SC showed great on the dyno, but when I went to the track it was pulling timing and not getting trap speeds you would expect...not because the dyno was wrong, but because the setup as I had it didn't allow me to stay in the powerband and because IAT's going through gears were too high.

I had to make changes to the setup and with less dyno numbers I ran better times.

In other words, it's a race to get into the 9's on a vert. :-)

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by Drsagacity

I had that problem on my Vette too. We figure we are good for 1 full out pass every time. Otherwise, work on launch and 1/8th and then let off to stay at 13.5+

I am doing e85, but am trying to stay away from the alky injection. I know it adds a ton of headroom to advance timing.

Anyway, I have smaller pulleys on the way so I am expecting to get into the 800's also.

I wasn't talking about HP numbers being over inflated, I would be more interested in seeing if the power for a quick run on the dyno converts to the track where you are going through gears and IAT's get much hotter. In other words, a dyno shows an ideal situation, but on my previous build, my stinking P1SC showed great on the dyno, but when I went to the track it was pulling timing and not getting trap speeds you would expect...not because the dyno was wrong, but because the setup as I had it didn't allow me to stay in the powerband and because IAT's going through gears were too high.

I had to make changes to the setup and with less dyno numbers I ran better times.

In other words, it's a race to get into the 9's on a vert. :-)

Ah ok, I understand, that makes sense.. What Dyno were you using at the time and under what conditions did it operate? It would make even more sense if it was a Dynojet, especially if it was in an air conditioned dyno cell.

Matt runs a Mustang dyno which, while not perfect, adds load to the car so it more closely simulates real world driving. A Dynojet however operates without load (only load is the weight of the drums) and so tends to read higher numbers as well as requiring more 'real world' road tuning.

[Nitefall17]

Ricco,
What shop do you go to get work???

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by Nitefall17

Ricco,
What shop do you go to get work???

Matt Sorian #MSTuning.

They are in the same place as JRods.

[Ricco]

Here is my Dyno sheet.. love that ‘torque curve’ 🤣




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