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However I get all this (above).. I am in no way disputing your can's operation, functionality or ability to remove oil vapors etc. Nor am disputing the need for a closed PCV system for 90+% of the time in a street driven vehicle. What I am questioning, and what you have dodged so far, is your systems capacity for evacuating large quantities of blowby during WOT pulls on an engine producing upwards of 15psi+ of boost. It now seems to me that the hoses (-6) and fittings used (TB and CAI orifices) would become a flow restriction simply due to their physical size. It's in this situation that seals are blown out, and honestly, I wouldn't want to risk that.
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09-17-2018, 01:48 PM | #16 |
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Is the stock system a closed system?
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09-17-2018, 02:21 PM | #18 |
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okay... So.. the Mighty Mouse uses a PCV diverter just like the Elite... the MM can moves the PCV valve to the can instead of under the blower.. The filter on top of the breather has a flap and only allows relief if the crank case sees more pressure than it should..
So tell me how that's not the same closed setup until excessive pressure was to build up?
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09-17-2018, 02:28 PM | #19 |
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Thanks Ricco, Sorry for the confusion. I thought we have already answered this, with any big boost FI application you want our E2-X Ultra system with -8 or -10 lines and fittings. It is listed in our previous posts. Is there a reason why you're referencing -6 lines? The Ultra is standard with -8 on request and -10 if desired. All of that said, all is regulated by the fixed orifice size in the valley PCV barb that is slightly less than 1/8" in diameter, so that will always dictate maximum CFM of evacuation flow possible. You will see we also urge those with big boost builds to remove and modify the fixed orifice to a maximum of 1/4" as TurboNetics head of Engineering also advises. Please let me know how you have been led to believe we use only -6 hose as this is not the case. Thanks!! Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com |
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Errr.... Because that's what it says on your website. I see a couple of mentions of -8 fittings but that's it, nothing on the order section. Besides, that doesn't address the orifice size at the valve covers, TB inlet, or CAI pickup.
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EDFHOBBIES I'm sorry, if there's still some confusion, I think we went through this before First off, how does the MM provide additional evacuation suction like we do to prevent pressure from ever building in the first place? Yes, they allow pressure to build at full boost and vent to the atmosphere. Illegal in all 50 States as well as it 100% gives grounds to void a warranty if that's a concern. Next is, why do you install a "catchcan"? It is to STOP the oil ingestion. As the MM allows close to as much or more to "pass through" and still be ingested where the E2-X stops app. 95%....so how is that an advantage? How is any of that an advantage? It is impossible with the E2-X system to allow pressure to build as the cleanside separator is also a failsafe that makes this impossible. But instead of venting to the atmosphere, it vents into the main air intake but scrubs oil form the vapors preventing ingestion. Ricco, we have went over in detail in most of our posts on the hose size and making SURE to email our tech support before ordering to make sure the proper system and options are chosen for the applications as there is no "one size fits all". We also include pictures showing -10 lines on big power builds: This is good to have this clarified as there seems to be so much disinformation it appears being spread. So, I hope we clarified uch of this. In summary, here are the differences: E2-X traps 95% vs less than 50% (take the challenge yourself and see first hand). E2-X comes with the CSS for applications without a factory CSS. LT4 does not come with one. E2-X makes it impossible for pressure to build period. E2-X uses a secondary evacuation suction source to increase capabilities when needed most, at WOT/Full Boost. E2-X can be ordered with -6,-8, or -10 fittings and lines. ALWAYS email our Technical Support group at: Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com to make sure you are choosing the correct system for your build/application. The E2-X Ultra should be used any time power is above 600hp. No other system is more effective than our patented design in the E2-X line. Cheers!!! |
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