11-30-2020, 09:22 PM | #1 |
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No Lift Shift > Money Shift?
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I just reached break-in mileage and am wishing to have some fun... I am interested in testing out launch control in my MT SS1LE. I especially want to try NLS. That got me thinking... Have there been any reports of money shifts (be that on track or dragstrip)? I would assume the possibility of such might be heightened by the implementation of NLS. On a similar note, can one accidentally engage reverse when hunting for 5th? I assume there's a lockout but wasn't sure if one were to man-handle the lever that it would be possible. Thanks in advance for your answers and perspective! |
11-30-2020, 11:54 PM | #2 |
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I don't know how NLS heightens the chance of money shifting. It's used for upshifts, and you still need to use the clutch pedal for shifting.
And there is an electronic lockout for the reverse gear above a certain speed(I think 5 MPH/8 km/h).
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12-01-2020, 01:05 AM | #3 |
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i read where a guy money $hifted his car on a road course resulting in engine damage. the car was repaired under warranty.
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Then again, this is my first car with NLS so I have no real world experience here. I could be completely wrong. |
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12-01-2020, 01:30 AM | #5 |
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I did a search but haven't seen it on the 6th gen camaro. I have searched and found many on other platforms though. May I ask where you read it?
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12-01-2020, 06:58 AM | #6 |
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I think the danger is more on the downshift at high speeds - such as 5th to 3rd but hitting 1st or 6th to 4th and hitting 2nd. On the upshift (NLS or not) its all about proper hand placement on the shift knob and technique if you are shifting as fast as you can. I've missed the 2-3 upshift a few times where I didn't gate it into 3rd fully I hit the rev limiter on the resulting free rev (missed gear not a money shift) It would be hard to money shift this shifter on an upshift from 2nd to third but hit first instead - which is the most common money shift when slamming the gears.
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12-01-2020, 08:44 AM | #7 |
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NLS is a gimmick at best...The ECU reduces torque on the NLS to reduce drive train stress. Yes your manual has torque management...it's not like the old days.
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a gimmick? perhaps. but i don't think it's as detrimental as it is played out to be.
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12-01-2020, 10:52 AM | #9 |
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i believe there was a youtube link posted to the guy im referring to. which was in someone elses money shift thread.. if you can decipher that.
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Going to the strip the weekend and will test nls vs regular quick shifting to have some actual "data" because I do feel it pulls hard when I lift briefly vs nls but side by side races tell me the nls is keeping me ahead better.
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I just noticed more wheel spin when I did the NLS the one and only time I had the guts to try it. I like to believe after beating on V8 manuals since 1995, I'm fairly proficient at shifting quickly.
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