[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by ctrlz

As usual, it IS a requirement, but enforcement is vague. I'm guessing if your 2WD Yukon plows into somebody in a storm, you are getting a citation. Here's an explanation:

https://www.9news.com/article/news/l...d-03cad1473c9b

I see now..

Yeah, laws like that aren't really effective deterrents, because they cannot practically be enforced. They will be enforced during the result of an accident when assigning blame, that's kind of where those kind of laws come in, they can show the person was careless by not having the proper equipment that is required by law, etc. It's well intentioned, to reduce the accidents and injuries/fatalities, but any law like that needs actual enforcement where there's little chance of "getting away with" not complying. Otherwise, it's just a waste of paper.

In practice, these laws are usually used as legal weapons after something happens...not to prevent them from happening.

[Aragorn]

For what it’s worth I traversed a mountain pass for about four years in a fox body 5.0. It was brutal but I never once went off the road. In my humble opinion a front wheel drive with good winter tires should suffice.

[Rock-It Man]

I have lived in New England for ever. That's over 50 years of driving.

No matter what tires you put on them, rear wheel drive cars are not dependably safe on ice and snow. Except for air cooled VWs, with the engine in back of the rear axle. These work great, and so do front wheel drive cars.

However, nothing beats a 4 wheel drive when you have to get up early in the morning and drive to work before the roads are plowed and treated. I wouldn't be without one.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

I have lived in New England for ever. That's over 50 years of driving.

No matter what tires you put on them, rear wheel drive cars are not dependably safe on ice and snow. Except for air cooled VWs, with the engine in back of the rear axle. These work great, and so do front wheel drive cars.

However, nothing beats a 4 wheel drive when you have to get up early in the morning and drive to work before the roads are plowed and treated. I wouldn't be without one.

I'm with you on that thought.

[hotlap]

I’ve driven rwd, V8 muscle in Wisconsin winters since 1982.

Got the tools. Got the talent.

[Vaska]

ROFL never thought to put winters on my stock wheels. 245s Blizzaks on 18” stock wheels do me just fine.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Vaska

ROFL never thought to put winters on my stock wheels. 245s Blizzaks on 18” stock wheels do me just fine.

I like my Camaro’s to always look the same so I bought a set of MRR reproductions and got OE size Sottozeros

I’ve been doing this since the gen4 (1996) …because I can.

[s346k]

i bought a winter setup with snow tires for the car. i don't drive the car over winter but i didnt want it sitting on the goodyears or mickey thompsons. not to mention, in the event my 25 year old, 300k mile dd fails to operate, i can drive the camaro as an absolute last resort. my dining room looks like tire rack. once these gold wheels get here i will have 3 full sets of wheels/tires stacked up in there. plus 2 random front drag wheels and a pair of 20" burnout tires.

priorities.

after experiencing snow tires on a rwd preference car, i would not hesitate to dd a camaro on them.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Chutzpah

Hotlap, off subject….are the MRR’s an exact match in design to the OEM? I read and saw pictures somewhere that they have some softer curves side by side. I don’t see that now… so I’m wondering if MRR changed their mold, or it’s just my eyes aren’t picking up on it. Trying to decide on aftermarket for next car (a non tracker).

I put the MRRs on today and had a good chance to compare them to the OEM 1LE rims. They are good for a driver and the finish is acceptable for what I’m using them for (winter). Observations are.

1. The mating surface area is different and appears to have less contact area. Seen in picture
2. When I torqued down the Gorilla lugs, I bought from MRR with the rims, under full torque the lug key socket (tool) binds against the side slightly on some. They start out turning freely so I assume the lug is cocking slightly on some. I tightened and seated them, with the weight off, in a crossing pattern.
3. The finish is nice, but not as nice as the OEM rims. There are light spots in shadow areas that are better covered on the OEM. One has a spec of dirt and the edges are sharper. The finish is rougher too.
4. The lug bores are chamfered on the inside (mating surface) of the OEM rims. The MRRs are not.

I wouldn’t use these for anything hard, performance oriented. Nice enough to get the look at a budget price.

The Sottozeros ride like butter. As always.

Here you can see the OEM rim pattern on the rotor compared to where the MRR sits.

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by hotlap

I put the MRRs on today and had a good chance to compare them to the OEM 1LE rims. They are good for a driver and the finish is acceptable for what I’m using them for (winter). Observations are.

1. The mating surface area is different and appears to have less contact area. Seen in picture
2. When I torqued down the Gorilla lugs, I bought from MRR with the rims, under full torque the lug key socket (tool) binds against the side slightly on some. They start out turning freely so I assume the lug is cocking slightly on some. I tightened and seated them, with the weight off, in a crossing pattern.
3. The finish is nice, but not as nice as the OEM rims. There are light spots in shadow areas that are better covered on the OEM. One has a spec of dirt and the edges are sharper. The finish is rougher too.
4. The lug bores are chamfered on the inside (mating surface) of the OEM rims. The MRRs are not.

I wouldn’t use these for anything hard, performance oriented. Nice enough to get the look at a budget price.

The Sottozeros ride like butter. As always.

Here you can see the OEM rim pattern on the rotor compared to where the MRR sits.
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Thanks for the detailed follow up!