08-12-2015, 11:22 AM | #1 |
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SS or V6 + twin turbo?
Aside from the warranty impact, which route is better for modest performance (not tracking).
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08-12-2015, 11:38 AM | #2 |
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I'd stick to the v8 and mod that.. You'll always be able to get more out of it.
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08-12-2015, 11:42 AM | #3 |
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SS would stay stock (maybe CAI etc), but $ for $ since I would have money left over with a V6, you think the SS would be a better choice than to take the savings and mod a V6?
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08-12-2015, 11:47 AM | #4 |
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Thats a pretty great V6. There's lots left in it. You can mod it past the stock V8 performance. But at that point you're probably spending the same as just buying the V8 and sacrificing durability.
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08-12-2015, 11:53 AM | #5 |
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With a V8, you have instant torque and power in all gears. TTV6 isn't going to have such an instant throw your butt into the seat feel.
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08-12-2015, 11:59 AM | #6 |
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Yeah stick with the V8. You will end up spending more money in the long run to make the V6 more powerful. Also the rear end and tranny of the V6 isn't as strong as the V8 so you will probably have to upgrade that too.
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08-12-2015, 12:11 PM | #7 |
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I agree with going V8. The longevity and reliability of a modded V6 won't compare to the V8, not to mention the different power bands and torque.
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08-12-2015, 12:12 PM | #8 |
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I've read some pretty bad ass V6 builds over on camaro 5.
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08-12-2015, 12:17 PM | #9 |
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Why not? The LF3 makes about the same torque at 2000 RPM as the LT1 in the C7 Z51, so I would think you could do the same with a custom turbo setup on the LGX.
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But I'm not saying a custom TT V6 is the way to go either. Just making a point. This is a super tough question, b/c there are too many variables. What's your power goals? What's your budget and what money would you expect to spend on a v6 Camaro versus a V8 Camaro? Do you care about a warranty? What about reliability? In the 5th gen, we've seen that the V6 is relatively reliable when tuned to the power of around 450 - 550 hp. But hard to compare reliability of a boosted/tuned V6 to a stock V8. Do you want to be unique and pave your own road, or go the easier route? I can't vote for one way or the other, although I have a soft spot for the V6, even if I don't end up in one this time around. Make no mistake, even in n/a form, the V6 this time around is going to be pretty quick! Guarantee we are going to see SS beating V6s and even turbo 4s coming eventually.
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This was an issue early on with the 2011 5.0 when tuners came out with tunes for them after release. They were running hot and tuners leaned them out for more power, but they ran hotter and those who bypassed some safety features bit their customers in the ass, hard. (Popped pistons, usually #8 but there were others).
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We won't really know what is weak on the LGX until someone breaks one.
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08-12-2015, 04:54 PM | #13 |
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To me this is pretty simple from a common sense standpoint:
A CA6 V6 with a turbo(s):
But a more conservative person might like a CA6 SS with LTs, a CAI, and drag radials that runs 11 second quarter miles all day long and is not too worried about the one in million dialed in turbo V6 Camaro. Says the guy with twin turbos on a V8. OP my advice is buy the car that performs at least close to the performance you want. It is never cheaper to build your own. Especially considering your turbo V6 will not be worth one penny more than a stock V6. And it may be harder to sell and impossible to trade in. But if you enjoy piecing together a fast car and you are ready for expensive mistakes and don't consider drive train warranties as important, then go for the fun and the heart aches of a build.
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Peak torque at each speed (steady state) should not be confused with transient torque response. For instance, if you go from 0% throttle to 100% throttle at a given engine speed (2000rpm for instance), I suspect the LT1 torque response curve would look much better than the LF3 / LF4. It will take at least some time for turbos to spool up and for boost pressure to get to where where it would be at on a steady state torque curve.
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