New motor is back in the Camaro 10/25/18 - Page 5

PRAY · 10-10-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Just like with any VVT engine as the cam gets bigger you have to limit how far you move it.

Our cams are all Zero degree lock out.

What Ted said. I have 0* limited all of my cams from the start. Just spec it correctly and the VVT isn't needed.

DFW1LE · 10-10-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PRAY

What Ted said. I have 0* limited all of my cams from the start. Just spec it correctly and the VVT isn't needed.

Also, as Brett has explained to me, if your cam has a lot of built in advance like mine (+8), you might need to go with 4* limiter, and is also another reason I plan to move to one of Brett's cams and use a 0* limiter.

PRAY · 10-10-2018, 12:27 PM

I think on my next large by huge cam I am going bring in an extra +4* advance and run a 4* limiter. If it doesnt work out I can command 4* retard and put it back to normal. There could be some tq down low to be gained on a large cam. But you never know till you test.

DFW1LE · 10-10-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PRAY

I think on my next large by huge cam I am going bring in an extra +4* advance and run a 4* limiter. If it doesnt work out I can command 4* retard and put it back to normal. There could be some tq down low to be gained on a large cam. But you never know till you test.

Am I going to be the guinea pig?

PRAY · 10-10-2018, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DFW1LE

Am I going to be the guinea pig?

No, I wouldn't do that to anyone but myself. I don't use others as test dummies.

laynlo15 · 10-10-2018, 01:25 PM

Great info for all of us.

laynlo15 · 10-17-2018, 10:38 PM

I picked the motor up today, have a few things still on order, BMR motor mounts, 160 t stat so hope to start getting it back in the car this weekend and running Wednesday. Might get some passes in the 26th or 27th but if that doesn't happen it may be spring since its gonna get cold before long. I have to leave for SEMA the 28th and won't be back till the Nov. 3. Any time after that I'll have to travel to a warmer climate to run, doubt that will happen. Probably switch to E85 this winter and have it ready to go in the spring. I'll keep you updated.

laynlo15 · 10-18-2018, 10:05 PM

I did order BMR tubular motor mounts for more room for my long tubes. I guess it would be best to wrap the headers close to the starter as I've heard about starter failures with the heat from the headers.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-19-2018, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

I did order BMR tubular motor mounts for more room for my long tubes. I guess it would be best to wrap the headers close to the starter as I've heard about starter failures with the heat from the headers.

I recommend Ceramic metallic coating.

laynlo15 · 10-19-2018, 10:21 AM

My headers are coated, just want a little more heat wrap to make sure I don't have any problems. Thanks Ted.

oldman · 10-20-2018, 02:01 PM

wrap your header at the location and then wrap the starter too. IMO coating ain't even close to cutting it. You are ejecting close to double the OEM power thru the exhaust and then stuck in staging lines / traffic etc. The starter cooks bone stock.

laynlo15 · 10-20-2018, 03:47 PM

I picked up the wrap today, good idea on wrapping the starter also. The staging lanes really build some heat, I don't drive it much on the street anymore but if I go to E85 I just might since its a pain to switch back and forth from 93 to race fuel.

oldman · 10-20-2018, 04:33 PM

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Header wrapped only where the starter is..

laynlo15 · 10-21-2018, 06:41 AM

Thanks for the pics oldman

10-10-2018, 01:25 PM	#62
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Great info for all of us. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-17-2018, 10:38 PM	#63
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I picked the motor up today, have a few things still on order, BMR motor mounts, 160 t stat so hope to start getting it back in the car this weekend and running Wednesday. Might get some passes in the 26th or 27th but if that doesn't happen it may be spring since its gonna get cold before long. I have to leave for SEMA the 28th and won't be back till the Nov. 3. Any time after that I'll have to travel to a warmer climate to run, doubt that will happen. Probably switch to E85 this winter and have it ready to go in the spring. I'll keep you updated. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-18-2018, 10:05 PM	#64
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I did order BMR tubular motor mounts for more room for my long tubes. I guess it would be best to wrap the headers close to the starter as I've heard about starter failures with the heat from the headers. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-19-2018, 10:21 AM	#66
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	My headers are coated, just want a little more heat wrap to make sure I don't have any problems. Thanks Ted. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-20-2018, 02:01 PM	#67
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	wrap your header at the location and then wrap the starter too. IMO coating ain't even close to cutting it. You are ejecting close to double the OEM power thru the exhaust and then stuck in staging lines / traffic etc. The starter cooks bone stock. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

10-10-2018, 12:27 PM	#59
PRAY Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Sanford NC Posts: 2,766	I think on my next large by huge cam I am going bring in an extra +4* advance and run a 4* limiter. If it doesnt work out I can command 4* retard and put it back to normal. There could be some tq down low to be gained on a large cam. But you never know till you test.

10-20-2018, 03:47 PM	#68
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I picked up the wrap today, good idea on wrapping the starter also. The staging lanes really build some heat, I don't drive it much on the street anymore but if I go to E85 I just might since its a pain to switch back and forth from 93 to race fuel. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-20-2018, 04:33 PM	#69
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	Header wrapped only where the starter is.. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

10-21-2018, 06:41 AM	#70
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Thanks for the pics oldman __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

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