2012 v6 Camaro vs 2009 328i BMW

[victorv]

My parents want to buy a v6 rather than the SS for me. Im finding it very hard to get excited when they could get the SS for just a few grand more. On top of that I found out that my moms BMW run a 6.3 0-60 with just around 230 hp and 3.0 displacment!! The 325 hp 3.6L v6 camaro only runs a 6.6 acording to motor trend!! I did more research and found that the BMW weighs about 3400 compared to the Camaro's 4100. Still to me that discrepancy does not explain the .3 0-60 difference because the 2012 mustang weighs 400 pounds less with 18 hp less and is only .1 seconds faster in the camaro. What gives?? The only explination i can come up with is the added torque from the inline six of the BMW. Is there something else I am missing such as gearing? One thing is for sure those Germans can make damn good car.

[DarkFox1]

torque, weight, gear ratios, suspension setups, there's a lot of factors.

HPS is planing to make a front mount single turbo kit for the v6 camaro.. should give you v8 like power.

just sayin.

couple that with the HUGE aftermarket for camaro.. its not a bad deal. The new v6s in these cars are stout and capable.

[CamaroBelarus]

What a stupid post... there is NO any right number. 328i - 6.4 0-60, not 6.3. Camaro is 323 hp not 325, motortrend got 5.9 with 2010 with 306hp, not 6.6 (WTF? challenger v6 is faster that this), 2012 with new engine even faster, camaro weight is 3750, not 4100.

So we have 3400 230hp 6.4 14.7 1/4 bmw and 3750 324hp 5.9 14.2 1/4 (or even better with new engine) camaro. Where is a problem?

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by victorv

My parents want to buy a v6 rather than the SS for me. Im finding it very hard to get excited when they could get the SS for just a few grand more. On top of that I found out that my moms BMW run a 6.3 0-60 with just around 230 hp and 3.0 displacment!! The 325 hp 3.6L v6 camaro only runs a 6.6 acording to motor trend!! I did more research and found that the BMW weighs about 3400 compared to the Camaro's 4100. Still to me that discrepancy does not explain the .3 0-60 difference because the 2012 mustang weighs 400 pounds less with 18 hp less and is only .1 seconds faster in the camaro. What gives?? The only explination i can come up with is the added torque from the inline six of the BMW. Is there something else I am missing such as gearing? One thing is for sure those Germans can make damn good car.

My wife has a 2011 328i, the torque really isn't there in the I6; there is only 200 ft-lbs on tap. It does come in pretty low at 2750 rpm. Its acceleration is more from the gearing and the fact that it can rev to 7000 rpm.

You also need to keep in mind that the 6.4 seconds is likely for a RWD coupe with the 6 speed manual. I doubt my wife's cracks 0-60 in 7 seconds with the way it is configured and optioned, maybe on a good day it would hit 6.9 seconds.

I wouldn't worry about it.

[Swacer]

Lets back up....

Your parents...are buying you a car...and you're complaining about which one you're getting?

Wow....I got a 1991 Accord in 2003 when I turned 16. Appreciation is at an all time low anymore..

Someone calling for the wambulence?

[11 Camaro IBM]

Lol seriously if your getting a car don't complain I've had my v6 for a year and have full bolts and tune exept headers and it's fast! Now I'm working on gettingtje ex super charger the ipf on a stock v6 and does 0-60 in 4.7 and 13.1 on stock tires and stock everything other than the charger

[DarkFox1]

Originally Posted by Swacer

Lets back up....

Your parents...are buying you a car...and you're complaining about which one you're getting?

Wow....I got a 1991 Accord in 2003 when I turned 16. Appreciation is at an all time low anymore..

Someone calling for the wambulence?

I saw that too, but I didnt' say anything about it. When I was 15 my parents buoght me a brand new vehicle that I picked out. (I was a spoiled brat. )

I remember being disappointed that it didn't come in black, but I learned to love it.

To put it more subtly than these guys..

*yes, be grateful your parents are getting you a new car
*be gateful it's not a civic or a kia rio, or a scion ANYTHING, or a nissan cube or a smart.
*be greatful it's a CHEVY!
*be greatful it's a CAMARO

and the v6 is FAR better than MANY engines out there. you're not getting trash AT ALL by getting a v6. This is a STOUT little motor and has a LOT of potential.

Sure maybe the performance won't rip your eyes out.. but its not what a car IS but what it CAN BE. Again you have a HUGE mod market out there!!

[Synyster]

If it's your first vehicle then you don't need a SS anyway.

[Swacer]

Now now....don't be harsh. My gf has a Scion tC. Thats a nice little car for a back up car that allows the Camaro to stay in the garage on crappy days :-)

[BenningJ]

Originally Posted by Swacer

Lets back up....

Your parents...are buying you a car...and you're complaining about which one you're getting?

Wow....I got a 1991 Accord in 2003 when I turned 16. Appreciation is at an all time low anymore..

Someone calling for the wambulence?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! I completely agree.

OP, grow the f*ck up and buy your own damn car. Oh and maybe a little better research would help too.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

I assume you have driven your mother's car, but have you test driven a Camaro? If not, do it. If you still aren't convenced, ask the girls at school which they would rather be seen out on a date in. I'm guessing the Camaro will win in both tests and the V6/V8 thing won't come up at all.

[DEANGE2001]

Originally Posted by Synyster

If it's your first vehicle then you don't need a SS anyway.

Seriously, the kid has no driving experience and he wants 426 ponies at his disposal???

that is just crazy OP...dont you know you could poke your eye out with the V8????

[DEANGE2001]

Originally Posted by BenningJ

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! I completely agree.

OP, grow the f*ck up and buy your own damn car. Oh and maybe a little better research would help too.

a little harsh bro...but ultimately he is right OP, save up and buy it the way you want it.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

I assume you have driven your mother's car, but have you test driven a Camaro? If not, do it. If you still aren't convenced, ask the girls at school which they would rather be seen out on a date in. I'm guessing the Camaro will win in both tests and the V6/V8 thing won't come up at all.

They are teenage girls, they will go gaga for the Bimmer lol.