Am I Crazy? 2013 1LE

[Ryan20131LE]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

The 305s should be fine but what i'm saying is if someone put 4 new tires on at the same time they may have switched the wheels thinking it didn't matter being that OEM tires are all the same 285s . The front wheels on a 1LE is a 10 inch width and the rear wheels are 11 inch width , may have a 10 inch on one side and 11 inch on the other in the rear , also in the front . All 4 tires done at the same time ?

I know the guy I bought it from and wheels are the wheels that came with the car, he just put on new tires and left the wheels. They are all the same size, I am 99.999999% sure lol.

Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

So let me ask, did you have the alignment reset and it mostly corrected the problem?? You mentioned also that the front was off a bit as well, maybe that is why my left front rubs the fender well and the right does not. Curious.. Thanks

The whole car was aligned, and after the alignment, we looked and it was still off. That is when we took the measurements from the outside of the tire to the sub-frame bolt point. The front does seem to be a little off as well, both tires are the left/driver side are closer to the outside of the fender.

[PROZ11]

Originally Posted by Ryan20131LE

I know the guy I bought it from and wheels are the wheels that came with the car, he just put on new tires and left the wheels. They are all the same size, I am 99.999999% sure lol.

The wheels are not all the same size, even if the tires are. That's what Gen6_1Le is saying, from the factory the car came with 10" front wheels and 11" rears. Someone, at some point may have accidentally put one of the 10" wheels on the rear, possibly when the tires were replaced.

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[joeybsyc]

I'd be measuring the inside lips of both rear wheels... I'll bet you have a 10" on one side and an 11" on the other. if not, I'd be trading that sucker in. Looks weird all crab walkin' to the left.

[Ryan20131LE]

Originally Posted by PROZ11

The wheels are not all the same size, even if the tires are. That's what Gen6_1Le is saying, from the factory the car came with 10" front wheels and 11" rears. Someone, at some point may have accidentally put one of the 10" wheels on the rear, possibly when the tires were replaced.

I'll do that today when I get home, just o make sure.

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Originally Posted by joeybsyc

I'd be measuring the inside lips of both rear wheels... I'll bet you have a 10" on one side and an 11" on the other. if not, I'd be trading that sucker in. Looks weird all crab walkin' to the left.

Well, sounds like it's not just this car, as others have noticed the same issue. Never in an accident, and had to be issue from factory.

[BandRcAMARO]

Its not how the car was built, somethings wrong. Like the one guy said, looks to make sure both rear wheels are the 11 inch wide ones and not one 10 inch and the other 11 inches wide. Also check the back of the wheels to see if they are not aftermarket replacements for like a cracked rim or anything, could be different offset.

[PROZ11]

Originally Posted by BandRcAMARO

Its not how the car was built, somethings wrong. Like the one guy said, looks to make sure both rear wheels are the 11 inch wide ones and not one 10 inch and the other 11 inches wide. Also check the back of the wheels to see if they are not aftermarket replacements for like a cracked rim or anything, could be different offset.

It has been suggested several times to him to check the rear wheels to make sure they are the same width and offset. Either he hasn't done that, or he did and they were fine. It's easy enough to check, so I'm guessing he's checked them?? Maybe not, there's only so many times it can be suggested.

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[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Ryan20131LE

Well, sounds like it's not just this car, as others have noticed the same issue. Never in an accident, and had to be issue from factory.

The only way you can be 100% sure is put another set of OEM wheels and tires from a 1LE and see how they sit , or remove all the tires from the wheels and make sure they are correct .If you can find the product number on the wheels that may help also , not sure where those numbers are on the wheels. I don't think it left the factory that way .

Front 20X10 offset is 23mm
Rear 20X11 offset is 43mm

[05Goat]

Thread got hijacked!

[Ryan20131LE]

Originally Posted by BandRcAMARO

Its not how the car was built, somethings wrong. Like the one guy said, looks to make sure both rear wheels are the 11 inch wide ones and not one 10 inch and the other 11 inches wide. Also check the back of the wheels to see if they are not aftermarket replacements for like a cracked rim or anything, could be different offset.

Again, measured all the wheels, they are in the correct place. All the wheels are the OEM factory wheels with CAMARO stamp, even had dealer verify. Frame shop looked at the car, WAS NEVER in an accident. Between the left and right it is off 1/4" to the left, 1/8" to the right would "Line" them up evenly. Was told it was this way from mfg, or "slop" in the sub frame bolts. I am not the only one to have this issue. Was told at this point it's purely cosmetic as it doesn't affect performance, and I can attest with sub 3min lap times on RA.

Originally Posted by PROZ11

It has been suggested several times to him to check the rear wheels to make sure they are the same width and offset. Either he hasn't done that, or he did and they were fine. It's easy enough to check, so I'm guessing he's checked them?? Maybe not, there's only so many times it can be suggested.
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Yes, have been checked lol.

[wakespeak]

The rear subframe has play in it to some extent. I loosened all 4 bolts and with a lot grunting and a rubber mallet, got them to be more centered. I may have also used a jack under the diff to "float" the subframe with the bolts loose. Are there inserts in the bushings? The subframe may have been messed with previously.

Also pull the wheels and look for the stamp in the barrel that has the offsets, GM part no, etc. Maybe one is wrong or an aftermarket replacement (which would not have the stamping) as the other guys said.