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Old 06-02-2020, 08:04 AM   #7505
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I think the C8s will eventually be in the high 10s bone stock on the stock tire.
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Old 06-02-2020, 10:48 AM   #7506
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I think the C8s will eventually be in the high 10s bone stock on the stock tire.
Most definitely. Let the people get some seat time and good track and good air it will be done.
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:33 AM   #7507
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Most definitely. Let the people get some seat time and good track and good air it will be done.
With launch control is there much more a driver can do? Or are you saying someone experienced will do better than launch control?
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:18 PM   #7508
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With launch control is there much more a driver can do? Or are you saying someone experienced will do better than launch control?
Even tho the car has launch control the driver is still important. A set RPM that worked for one driver at one track might not work at the next track. Or if the track is loose or super sticky that's going to require adjustments to the launch control and when people start adjusting tire pressures and what not they are gonna have to play around with the settings. Or if people are doing to let the trans do the work or shift themselves thats all driver related and that kind of stuff comes with seat time.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:29 PM   #7509
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Even tho the car has launch control the driver is still important. A set RPM that worked for one driver at one track might not work at the next track. Or if the track is loose or super sticky that's going to require adjustments to the launch control and when people start adjusting tire pressures and what not they are gonna have to play around with the settings. Or if people are doing to let the trans do the work or shift themselves thats all driver related and that kind of stuff comes with seat time.
It is cool we still matter, but will the technology advance enough where in a non manual car the nannies be faster than a person with seat time? Possible I think.

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Old 06-02-2020, 12:31 PM   #7510
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Even tho the car has launch control the driver is still important. A set RPM that worked for one driver at one track might not work at the next track. Or if the track is loose or super sticky that's going to require adjustments to the launch control and when people start adjusting tire pressures and what not they are gonna have to play around with the settings. Or if people are doing to let the trans do the work or shift themselves thats all driver related and that kind of stuff comes with seat time.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:49 PM   #7511
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It is cool we still matter, but will the technology advance enough where in a non manual car the nannies be faster than a person with seat time? Possible I think.

Oh for sure, I was more along the lines saying seat time / experience is always gonna matter bc that's how you know how to make adjustments based on conditions
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Old 06-02-2020, 03:41 PM   #7512
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I think the C8s will eventually be in the high 10s bone stock on the stock tire.
I dont know, the fastest time ever for a bone stock c6z was like 10.9, with ranger driving.

C8 has the same power but is 500lbs heavier.

I dont think a dct and more rear weight bias can make up for 500lbs. I mean it can with most drivers, but I don’t think a pro driver.

If the c8 does hit 10’s bone stock, it will be pretty much the fastest time ever for a car with 7.3lbs per hp
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Old 06-02-2020, 10:47 PM   #7513
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Ouch Robby, i feel like that was a hard dig at me (i thought we were cool). Though if it is a dig at me, i think you will find I stated that it will be a couple hero runs in the 10s and I'm sticking with it. I also said drag radials wouldn't be dropping the times as much as front engine cars when the one guy was claiming he was going to be running 10.6s on just a radial, so maybe you weren't referring to me?

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Not at all brother, you're one of the cool dudes on here and when we do disagree it's always cordial and a proper debate.

Plus you did add in that some 10 second hero runs would happen so you definately left yourself some leeway there and therefore couldn't be the target of my post haha.

I do agree that radials won't help it as much as it would a front engine car, you won't see the c8 go from 11.4 on the street to a 10.5 at the track with a tire like the gt500. The c8 wont see mid 10s "stock" that's for sure.
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I dont know, the fastest time ever for a bone stock c6z was like 10.9, with ranger driving.

C8 has the same power but is 500lbs heavier.

I dont think a dct and more rear weight bias can make up for 500lbs. I mean it can with most drivers, but I don’t think a pro driver.

If the c8 does hit 10’s bone stock, it will be pretty much the fastest time ever for a car with 7.3lbs per hp
I agree with most of this and the c6z is a good reference point, but still see a 10.9 in perfect conditions as a posibility.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:14 AM   #7515
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The Rumors of a ACR Challenger are back in the news, fake news don't think so.

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...-set-for-2021/

Could the Viper ACR be the benchmark?

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/01/...ellcat-engine/

https://www.thedrive.com/news/33767/...e-viper-report
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:28 AM   #7516
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The Rumors of a ACR Challenger are back in the news, fake news don't think so.

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...-set-for-2021/

Could the Viper ACR be the benchmark?

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/01/...ellcat-engine/

https://www.thedrive.com/news/33767/...e-viper-report
Would be very cool if they could pull it off!
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:42 AM   #7517
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The Rumors of a ACR Challenger are back in the news, fake news don't think so.

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...-set-for-2021/

Could the Viper ACR be the benchmark?

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/01/...ellcat-engine/

https://www.thedrive.com/news/33767/...e-viper-report
Ralphe Gilles had hinted that something more wicked this way comes when he sold his Demon. This could very well be it.
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Going to be very interesting to see how they handle the Challenger chassis weight. I will predict that there is no way a Viper ACR is the benchmark - laws of physics prevent that from happening while meeting production car safety equipment requirements.

If it matches the ZLE and CFTP GT500, I will be beyond impressed.
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