Danger - G3R tires - cold weather reminder - ZLE owners - Page 2

staples87 · 11-13-2019, 11:57 AM

Good post. It only took me ONE time in 50 degree weather to romp on it with traction control off before the tires were warm to learn that the car needs respect.

Junkyardspecial · 11-13-2019, 01:35 PM

You dailying that in the winter VTOR?

Vtor_ZL1 · 11-13-2019, 04:03 PM

oh yeah

Gotta make sure heated seats and heated steering wheel work - they do

that way you can crack window a bit to hear the rumble.

Alain · 11-13-2019, 09:41 PM

cold tires are the reason why I crashed my first ZLE last march after two weeks of ownership !!!

great thread !!!

sv340 · 11-14-2019, 08:44 AM

Aside from lack of traction, they will crack in cold weather. That is expensive and dangerous as well.

Northtrack · 11-14-2019, 09:25 PM

Agree completely with the OP.

I had my first cold weather experience with the F1SC3R's a couple of weeks ago and it wasn't positive. It started with a nervous/gripless 100 mile drive to the track with temperatures about -2 deg C/29 deg F. First run on the track the temps were 2 deg C/36 deg F and did four sessions with the warmest being about 9 deg C/48 deg F. These were basically new tires - maybe 300 street miles total and this was the first track day.The grip for the morning sessions was non existent for the first 2-3 laps and took about 7 laps to get up to pressure, heat and decent grip. With 24 minute sessions, getting a reasonable amount of heat into the tires took over half the session. During the last session, I stared to feel a vibration like I had picked something up on the tires. It didn't change so I came in after a couple of laps and checked the tires, and discovered a large chunk of rubber missing from the middle of the right rear tire - pics below. No pressure loss, and I was able to drive home - albeit slowly and with a steady vibration. I'm sure this is a result of cold temperature use and abuse which the F1SC3R's are just not designed for. I was thinking that I should avoid using the F1SC3R's below 40 deg F, but that might not be warm enough.

Alain · 11-14-2019, 09:35 PM

Jesus !!! that's scary !! I can't believe you drove home with a tire like that !!

Northtrack · 11-15-2019, 01:21 PM

It was a nervous drive and I stayed off the major highways so kept the speeds down. FWIW, it was a good test of the robustness/durability of the inner carcass, and I was probably lucky that the tire survived the trip but I really didn't have an option. Lesson learned and definitely not something I want experience again.......

11-13-2019, 11:57 AM	#15
staples87 Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 319	Good post. It only took me ONE time in 50 degree weather to romp on it with traction control off before the tires were warm to learn that the car needs respect. __________________ '17 Camaro ZL1 M6

11-13-2019, 01:35 PM	#16
Junkyardspecial Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: May 2019 Location: South Florida Posts: 438	You dailying that in the winter VTOR? __________________ Subscribe to my Youtube channel! https://www.youtube.com/c/Junkyardspecial Will buy your GoodYear Supercar 3R Take offs!

11-13-2019, 04:03 PM	#17
Vtor_ZL1 Who Needs to KNOW? Drives: 18 ZLE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Left Side of the Moon Posts: 1,770	oh yeah Gotta make sure heated seats and heated steering wheel work - they do that way you can crack window a bit to hear the rumble. Attached Images __________________ ing for grip. Are you in the NY/NJ/PA/CT region? Join us for autox fun at MetLife Stadium. HUGE lots, tons of runs. http://www.motorsportsne.com/

11-13-2019, 09:41 PM	#18
Alain Drives: 2016 Challenger Hellcat, 2018 ZL1LE Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 3,003	cold tires are the reason why I crashed my first ZLE last march after two weeks of ownership !!! great thread !!! __________________ 2016 Challenger Hellcat /B5 blue/Sepia interior/Brass Monkey Wheels/ 2018 ZL1 1LE/Red hot 2019 Shellby GT 350R/ Oxford white/ Matte Black Stripes/ Carbon Fiber Dash/ Electronics Package #413

11-14-2019, 09:25 PM	#20
Northtrack Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Ontario Posts: 50	Agree completely with the OP. I had my first cold weather experience with the F1SC3R's a couple of weeks ago and it wasn't positive. It started with a nervous/gripless 100 mile drive to the track with temperatures about -2 deg C/29 deg F. First run on the track the temps were 2 deg C/36 deg F and did four sessions with the warmest being about 9 deg C/48 deg F. These were basically new tires - maybe 300 street miles total and this was the first track day.The grip for the morning sessions was non existent for the first 2-3 laps and took about 7 laps to get up to pressure, heat and decent grip. With 24 minute sessions, getting a reasonable amount of heat into the tires took over half the session. During the last session, I stared to feel a vibration like I had picked something up on the tires. It didn't change so I came in after a couple of laps and checked the tires, and discovered a large chunk of rubber missing from the middle of the right rear tire - pics below. No pressure loss, and I was able to drive home - albeit slowly and with a steady vibration. I'm sure this is a result of cold temperature use and abuse which the F1SC3R's are just not designed for. I was thinking that I should avoid using the F1SC3R's below 40 deg F, but that might not be warm enough. Attached Images

11-14-2019, 08:44 AM	#19
sv340 Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Idaho Posts: 98	Aside from lack of traction, they will crack in cold weather. That is expensive and dangerous as well.

11-14-2019, 09:35 PM	#21
Alain Drives: 2016 Challenger Hellcat, 2018 ZL1LE Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 3,003	Jesus !!! that's scary !! I can't believe you drove home with a tire like that !! __________________ 2016 Challenger Hellcat /B5 blue/Sepia interior/Brass Monkey Wheels/ 2018 ZL1 1LE/Red hot 2019 Shellby GT 350R/ Oxford white/ Matte Black Stripes/ Carbon Fiber Dash/ Electronics Package #413

11-15-2019, 01:21 PM	#22
Northtrack Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Ontario Posts: 50	It was a nervous drive and I stayed off the major highways so kept the speeds down. FWIW, it was a good test of the robustness/durability of the inner carcass, and I was probably lucky that the tire survived the trip but I really didn't have an option. Lesson learned and definitely not something I want experience again.......

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