Throttle House track test: ZL1 1LE vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye

arpad_m · 10-03-2019, 05:42 PM

...with a cameo from Mahk

Won't give the results away, enjoy:

Gary H · 10-03-2019, 05:56 PM

Enjoyed that!
Thanks for sharing

Gunkk · 10-03-2019, 07:48 PM

Good stuff!

sv340 · 10-03-2019, 09:27 PM

Predictable outcome, but very well done.

Idaho2018GTPremium · 10-03-2019, 09:43 PM

I like these guys' track videos. The ZL1 1LE was only 0.46 seconds faster around that track than the SS 1LE (with Cup 2 tires). Wish they would have run the ZLE vs. a GT350R. The R would probably do really well on that track since there are very little straights for the ZLE to pull away from it on.

Redeye was almost a second slower than a A10 GT PP1 without Magneride. Wish they ran a PP1 w/ Magneride. The MR makes a big difference in the GT.

waterman · 10-03-2019, 10:47 PM

I am entertained.

Thanks for posting.

SoCal Smith · 10-03-2019, 11:54 PM

Auto vs manual....

Blu Ray · 10-04-2019, 12:00 AM

Auto vs M6 ????

Gunkk · 10-04-2019, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

I like these guys' track videos. The ZL1 1LE was only 0.46 seconds faster around that track than the SS 1LE (with Cup 2 tires). Wish they would have run the ZLE vs. a GT350R. The R would probably do really well on that track since there are very little straights for the ZLE to pull away from it on.

Redeye was almost a second slower than a A10 GT PP1 without Magneride. Wish they ran a PP1 w/ Magneride. The MR makes a big difference in the GT.

+1 to their style of reviewing cars. I presume car availability is a challenge for them since they're borrowing top-shelf cars from a limited pool of Canadian owners.

Part of the problem with the ZLE's time was driver control vs. the car's setup and that rough track. I'm surprised Tom didn't have a concussion after his hot laps with all of the headrest bounce. The Z's Recaro seats are not really flexible, so that track has got to be really, really rough. He admitted he struggled to get the most from the ZLE in the corners, bouncing around inside the cabin, breaking loose and delaying trackout multiple times. A snug 5-pt harness and possibly even a one-piece racing seat would have helped a lot there.

The SS1LE's magnetic ride clearly a huge difference there at keeping the sticky cup2 tires in contact with the tarmac and not giving the driver a case of shaken-baby syndrome.

Too bad their June review of the ZL1 didn't get it on that track, like the SS1LE its magnetic ride might allow it outperform the ZLE on that rough track. The "compliant" 350 chassis would indeed be better on that track if its back end can stay stable through the bouncy bits.

So there we have it for their next track battle: GT350 vs. ZL1 coupe

arpad_m · 10-04-2019, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal Smith

Auto vs manual....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu Ray

Auto vs M6 ????

Come on guys, the Redeye got 5 seconds from the manual 1LE anyhow, isn't that enough for you?

Realist · 10-04-2019, 12:40 PM

Turned out as expected. One car nearly anyone can hit similar #’s and the other takes more skill with only 1 hand on the wheel while you locate the proper gear and work the go pedal accordingly. I like the red eye but no manual availability even if slower is a major major turnoff for me. No on a ZL1 and base GT350 comparison. The regular ZL1 will still best the GT350R in most areas. The real out the door prices on these cars and the ZL1 and ZL1 1LE make them that much better compared to the comp. I do think Dodge does colors better then any other manufacturer out there.

Sibze · 10-06-2019, 10:26 AM

I've offered up my car again. My car was used for the first review.

Harry76 · 10-06-2019, 04:38 PM

I would have thought the Dodge would have been farther ahead in the drag race, an A10 would have beaten it.

arpad_m · 10-06-2019, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze

I've offered up my car again. My car was used for the first review.

Too bad they didn't do the drag race and track testing in that review.

10-03-2019, 05:56 PM	#2
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10-03-2019, 09:43 PM	#5
Idaho2018GTPremium Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,204	I like these guys' track videos. The ZL1 1LE was only 0.46 seconds faster around that track than the SS 1LE (with Cup 2 tires). Wish they would have run the ZLE vs. a GT350R. The R would probably do really well on that track since there are very little straights for the ZLE to pull away from it on. Redeye was almost a second slower than a A10 GT PP1 without Magneride. Wish they ran a PP1 w/ Magneride. The MR makes a big difference in the GT. __________________ 2021 Camaro ZL1 A10 2022 GR Supra 3.0 Past: 2018 Mustang GT Premium w/ PP1, MR, and A10 2007 MazdaSpeed3 1995 Pontiac Trans Am 1987 Camaro Z28

10-03-2019, 10:47 PM	#6
waterman Drives: Grandad's C2 L89 Join Date: May 2017 Location: 2051.50N 15629.60W Posts: 1,711	I am entertained. Thanks for posting. __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE sw/PDR

10-04-2019, 12:00 AM	#8
Blu Ray ALWAYS-N-BOOST Drives: 2021 ZLE A10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 2,376	Auto vs M6 ???? __________________ 2012 1LS M6 Black-Sold 2013 2LT M6 BluRay- Sold 2015 1SS 1LE M6 Black-Sold 2021 ZLE A10 Riverside Blue - Awaiting Arrival 01/10

10-03-2019, 07:48 PM	#3
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 4,973 View My Garage	Good stuff!

10-03-2019, 09:27 PM	#4
sv340 Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Idaho Posts: 98	Predictable outcome, but very well done.

10-03-2019, 11:54 PM	#7
SoCal Smith Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: SoCal Posts: 313 View My Garage	Auto vs manual....

10-04-2019, 12:40 PM	#11
Realist Drives: No Camaro :( Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Chitown Burbs Posts: 1,136	Turned out as expected. One car nearly anyone can hit similar #’s and the other takes more skill with only 1 hand on the wheel while you locate the proper gear and work the go pedal accordingly. I like the red eye but no manual availability even if slower is a major major turnoff for me. No on a ZL1 and base GT350 comparison. The regular ZL1 will still best the GT350R in most areas. The real out the door prices on these cars and the ZL1 and ZL1 1LE make them that much better compared to the comp. I do think Dodge does colors better then any other manufacturer out there.

10-06-2019, 10:26 AM	#12
Sibze Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Ontario Posts: 161	I've offered up my car again. My car was used for the first review.

10-06-2019, 04:38 PM	#13
Harry76 Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Nightfall Gray Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Indiana Posts: 104	I would have thought the Dodge would have been farther ahead in the drag race, an A10 would have beaten it.

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