[jmackisback]

Originally Posted by mitch03

The LMR runs are full interior. NO removed seats. And that's only with a 1.84 60 ft.

But since when is any weight reduction (i.e. resonator and wheels change) considered stock? A8 SS' 11.77-11.84 stock down to the run flats.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by RagingHawk

I'm sorry but in real world stock car it will not get anything near 12.0 auto or manual. Drag mode is not launch control in a 911 turbo S or Hurucan. Muscle cars just don't hook up well most of the time with stock cars. There's no way the 6MT is getting a 4.0 0-60. It's very difficult to match those times in the real world with stock tires. The average driver won't get past 4.3 0-60 with the PP M6 and probably auto too. Hell, they would be lucky to get that time even.

In my 5th gen SS, out of the all pulls from a stop, I never hooked perfectly except once and I was not expecting it. Mashed the pedal and had no wheel spin and was surprised by it, probably first time I actually managed a 4.5 0-60 which felt very fast from a stop. So there's no shame in 4.2-4.4 0-60 times, that is still really quick if you can manage getting a good pull. Most people are still going to get near 5 sec times on the streets. Drag strip with different tires is a different story.

All joking aside, I never tried LC in my 5th Gen. But I tried it once in my S550 GT and it resulted in nothing but my wheels spinning. I don't think the M6 GT will get those times at all. I think the A10 will do a mid 12 and maybe a low 12 but not a 12 flat.

Originally Posted by jmackisback

But since when is any weight reduction (i.e. resonator and wheels change) considered stock? A8 SS' 11.77-11.84 stock down to the run flats.

Only when a Mustang does it...lol!! I think LMR is just looking to get some press time and a little action their way. The way I see it, it's one thing for a Mustang shop with unlimited resources to go out and say they did this or that on a rented track. But I wanna see a true comparison between the two. And I wanna see how the GT handles a corner. If it does turn out to be faster than the Camaro then so be it. From the looks of it I doubt it tho. If we're to compare this run from LMR (which I don't consider official) to the best 6th Gen Camaro runs (which I don't consider official either), then the Camaro has been doing 11.8s and 11.9s bone stock with no changes to the car. Some are even claiming they did 11.7s. And these aren't shop owned cars to boot. I think the SS in an official shootout will be about 2-4 tenths faster.

[2011shelby]

Just have to see more hitting the strip from actual customers than we can guess a base time.
Sooner or later they will start hitting dealers around here.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by 2011shelby

Just have to see more hitting the strip from actual customers than we can guess a base time.
Sooner or later they will start hitting dealers around here.

One thing I'll give Stang owners is that they go to the track immediately after getting their cars, lol! I remember when the S550 first came out and you'd see more 15 GTs than 5th Gen Camaros at the track on any given day. I hope to see a few out there before the season ends.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

I hate to say it, but the gt350 was 1.3 sec slower then the Z51, what planet are you on that thinks that is really really close? That was a butt woopen.

must be the same planet where people think the SS1LE hangs with the 350R when its 2.5sec behind on VIR

Originally Posted by 1slowssm6

how is a 12.3 with all those mods spectacular? the track was fine guys got new pb's and cars were running 7's,whats spectacular about all of those mods with lund holding their hand on a 100shot going 11.3 the car just doesnt 60ft lmr and beefcake posted similar 60's? we all expected the a10 3:55 cars to run 11.9-12.0 stock,lmr was in +500 great da,weight reduction,drag pack,resonator delete,still only manages an 11.887? nothing is spectacular about any of that. its running slower than comparably modded 6th gens,ford boys claimed it was gonna massacre the 6g,its done nothing to impress me.

12.02 puts it at #5 on the C6g fast list with the #1 car being .1 faster. 11.88 is faster than all but 2 similarly modded C6g's and this is literally the 2nd 2018 to make passes. the most amusing thing for me is the guys saying they arent impressed cant post better slips.

[2011shelby]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

One thing I'll give Stang owners is that they go to the track immediately after getting their cars, lol! I remember when the S550 first came out and you'd see more 15 GTs than 5th Gen Camaros at the track on any given day. I hope to see a few out there before the season ends.

+1
My Shelby was making passes with paper plates still on the car.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

must be the same planet where people think the SS1LE hangs with the 350R when its 2.5sec behind on VIR


12.02 puts it at #5 on the C6g fast list with the #1 car being .1 faster. 11.88 is faster than all but 2 similarly modded C6g's and this is literally the 2nd 2018 to make passes. the most amusing thing for me is the guys saying they arent impressed cant post better slips.

People have moved on. They are on the list with more mods. Old times been replaced. I know of more than two people that went quicker with similar mods including me.

Also a couple people have run 11.8 totally stock but it’s not on the fast list but on Facebook.

I don’t care if it’s the 2nd car or the 100th what does that matter? It was a track rental in pretty good conditions. It’s a fair comparison. One of the first owners here on this site ran 12.0 first time out then an 11.7 on a drag pack within a month of the cars release. Not shop owned not at a rental. Just a guy who went to the strip.

It’s impressive sure but do you expect this community to bow to it?

If the shoe was on the other foot and a Camaro just dropped posting similar times the reaction would be the same.

I can and have posted better slips and I know what my car is capable of. If you guys were looking for the knockout blow sorry it’s not happening. Sure the car will go faster. Best case scenario it could turn out to have a very small edge. Again. Is that supposed to be incredible ? The 6gen destroyed the 15-17 car and plenty still give two shits or deny it.

And you still didn’t address the more modded beefcake 18 GT with tune, drag pack, DS, cat back and suspension that couldn’t leave the 12s. Further showing the LMR track rental was pretty decent conditions

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

must be the same planet where people think the SS1LE hangs with the 350R when its 2.5sec behind on VIR


12.02 puts it at #5 on the C6g fast list with the #1 car being .1 faster. 11.88 is faster than all but 2 similarly modded C6g's and this is literally the 2nd 2018 to make passes. the most amusing thing for me is the guys saying they arent impressed cant post better slips.

You mean the same track the 5th gen Z28 beat the 350r by .90 sec, ZL1 by 1.7 sec, and how the ZL1 1LE demolished it by 6.1 sec.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

12.02 puts it at #5 on the C6g fast list with the #1 car being .1 faster. 11.88 is faster than all but 2 similarly modded C6g's and this is literally the 2nd 2018 to make passes. the most amusing thing for me is the guys saying they arent impressed cant post better slips.

Again, there are several 6th Gen SS Camaros that have gone 11.8 and some have claimed even better (11.7) bone stock. But when we call out official Camaro times we all go by the low 12 that magazines have tested it at. So why would we be impressed at this point? And what are you suggesting we compare this run to? All any of us have been saying from the start is that the Camaro has been doing what the GT supposedly now can do all along, we'd like to see them in a H2H to get rid of any contributing factors (track, DA, driver), and that for any of you Mustang guys expecting us to be impressed is asking a bit much. You literally have an entire community of people who are cheering and hooraying and are super-impressed with these runs. So why are you upset that we don't care?

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Again, there are several 6th Gen SS Camaros that have gone 11.8 and some have claimed even better (11.7) bone stock. But when we call out official Camaro times we all go by the low 12 that magazines have tested it at. So why would we be impressed at this point? And what are you suggesting we compare this run to? All any of us have been saying from the start is that the Camaro has been doing what the GT supposedly now can do all along, we'd like to see them in a H2H to get rid of any contributing factors (track, DA, driver), and that for any of you Mustang guys expecting us to be impressed is asking a bit much. You literally have an entire community of people who are cheering and hooraying and are super-impressed with these runs. So why are you upset that we don't care?

It is impressive that the GT has finally caught up to the SS but as you point out, we've been here a while AND every SS will run it. No special packages, gearing or modes needed.

Plus, every SS has a full array of coolers with the promise that you can run a full tanks of fuel out and not overheat.

Almost. *

[1slowssm6]

[QUOTE=12.02 puts it at #5 on the C6g fast list with the #1 car being .1 faster. 11.88 is faster than all but 2 similarly modded C6g's and this is literally the 2nd 2018 to make passes. the most amusing thing for me is the guys saying they arent impressed cant post better slips. [/QUOTE]

uhhh i went 12.1 with manual car bone stock on a slick in +2000da lol,beefcake went 12.33 lund tuned,dragpack,dss axles,1pc ds,viking shocks,drag springs,cai,corsa catback. yeah im not impressed and i told terry thaton fb and he got mad lmr times are MUCH more impressive to me,but i still think they failed by pulling weight.beefcake went 10.87 129 earlier today but with all those mods and nitrous? not impressive oh and even on an upped shot and better tune car STILL went 1.8 to the 60ft,car is geared all to hell still cant 60ft as good on a drag radial as a 6g on runflats

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by 1slowssm6

uhhh i went 12.1 with manual car bone stock on a slick in +2000da lol,beefcake went 12.33 lund tuned,dragpack,dss axles,1pc ds,viking shocks,drag springs,cai,corsa catback. yeah im not impressed and i told terry thaton fb and he got mad lmr times are MUCH more impressive to me,but i still think they failed by pulling weight.beefcake went 10.87 129 earlier today but with all those mods and nitrous? not impressive oh and even on an upped shot and better tune car STILL went 1.8 to the 60ft,car is geared all to hell still cant 60ft as good on a drag radial as a 6g on runflats

What’s the shot at now?

[1slowssm6]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

What’s the shot at now?

they sprayed 150 to go 10.8@129 1.8 60ft

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

You mean the same track the 5th gen Z28 beat the 350r by .90 sec, ZL1 by 1.7 sec, and how the ZL1 1LE demolished it by 6.1 sec.

the GT350R is an n/a 5.2 that has no advantage over the ZL1 other than a set of lighter wheels...it rides on "an inferior chassis" and is down 125hp and 225ft lbs/ft the fact that it is closer to the ZL1 than the SS1LE is to the R is