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Old 03-10-2024, 08:00 PM   #1
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Modifying high mileage 2SS

Hey so short and sweet. I have a 2016 2SS A8 pushing 132000 miles. I know it’s high but wondering the route I should go with modifying it and even if it is a good idea to do. The goal is 750 - 790 wheel. Only thing done currently is a rotofab cold air intake. Any advice on if I should and if so what mods can get me there and any recommendations for Camaro shops or tuners in the southeast
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Old 03-10-2024, 09:39 PM   #2
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Hey so short and sweet. I have a 2016 2SS A8 pushing 132000 miles. I know it’s high but wondering the route I should go with modifying it and even if it is a good idea to do. The goal is 750 - 790 wheel. Only thing done currently is a rotofab cold air intake. Any advice on if I should and if so what mods can get me there and any recommendations for Camaro shops or tuners in the southeast
Modding car with many miles means more than just an engine that’s getting tired…your transmission, differential, accessories, fuel pumps, etc are all going to need work soon so modifying it will just accelerate your situation.

At 750-790 WHP you should build a short block anyway, freshen the heads, etc. Then bolt on a Whipple or Maggie and start making power.
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Old 03-10-2024, 11:13 PM   #3
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Modding car with many miles means more than just an engine that’s getting tired…your transmission, differential, accessories, fuel pumps, etc are all going to need work soon so modifying it will just accelerate your situation.

At 750-790 WHP you should build a short block anyway, freshen the heads, etc. Then bolt on a Whipple or Maggie and start making power.
Im at 99,000 and I want to put a pro charger on mine Im wanting 580/600 horsepower, are you saying that I should just save up a put a long block in even if its still running strong?
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Im at 99,000 and I want to put a pro charger on mine Im wanting 580/600 horsepower, are you saying that I should just save up a put a long block in even if its still running strong?
I assume thats 600 WHP. Really thats not a huge deal. It depends on how well maintained it was and how tolerant you are of future failures due to wear and age, what kind of fuel you will run, and how hard you plan to flog it.
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Hey so short and sweet. I have a 2016 2SS A8 pushing 132000 miles. I know it’s high but wondering the route I should go with modifying it and even if it is a good idea to do. The goal is 750 - 790 wheel. Only thing done currently is a rotofab cold air intake. Any advice on if I should and if so what mods can get me there and any recommendations for Camaro shops or tuners in the southeast
790 wheel is a LOT for an LT1 in great shape, much less with 132k miles on it. Agree at minimum you're going to need a mechanical refresh.
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790 wheel is a LOT for an LT1 in great shape, much less with 132k miles on it. Agree at minimum you're going to need a mechanical refresh.
Yep, this. 580-600 WHP is stock LT1 territory for sure, especially if you run E.

750-790 WHP is a much better idea when you run some forged pistons and rods.
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Old 03-11-2024, 08:25 AM   #7
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Hey so short and sweet. I have a 2016 2SS A8 pushing 132000 miles. I know it’s high but wondering the route I should go with modifying it ...t
No experience yet, but I see most of the pro shops have Camaro 2016+ Options/Packages drop downs on their sites you might use just to get some ideas. Such as vengeanceracing.net, mtiracing.com, latemodelracecraft.com to name just a few.

I have no experience with any of them with my 4500 miles 1SS. By proximity, I live ~10 miles from Vengance, so I'll use that shop when I do. I've definitly spent some time on those sites day dreaming the options.
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Yep, this. 580-600 WHP is stock LT1 territory for sure, especially if you run E.

750-790 WHP is a much better idea when you run some forged pistons and rods.
I didn’t think that I could run E boosted on the stock bottom end.
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I assume thats 600 WHP. Really thats not a huge deal. It depends on how well maintained it was and how tolerant you are of future failures due to wear and age, what kind of fuel you will run, and how hard you plan to flog it.
Ive had the car since new and I have kept up with the maintenance and thats all it has ever asked for, I had headers, ported intake and throttle body with a CAI since about 46,000 miles or so and I dont plan to flog it hard just some spirited driving from time to time and maybe one road course to click it off of my bucket list.
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I didn’t think that I could run E boosted on the stock bottom end.
Uh, you really really want E on the stock bottom end! It pulls heat and protects against detonation with the stock pistons and rods… Now, you’ll need to upgrade your fueling to do it but it’s a no brainer to do. Running high compression plus boost on 91 or 93 octane is not great…
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Uh, you really really want E on the stock bottom end! It pulls heat and protects against detonation with the stock pistons and rods… Now, you’ll need to upgrade your fueling to do it but it’s a no brainer to do. Running high compression plus boost on 91 or 93 octane is not great…
Will the LT4 HPFP and injectors suffice or do I need to upgrade further?
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Old 03-11-2024, 12:37 PM   #12
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Before you do anything I’d make sure your vitals are still in good shape: bearings, rings, seals, oil pump, timing chain - check for slack…… all that basic engine stuff needs to be tip top before adding power. Wouldn’t hurt to do a full compression test on all 8 pots to make sure they’re all equal and still high.
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Before you do anything I’d make sure your vitals are still in good shape: bearings, rings, seals, oil pump, timing chain - check for slack…… all that basic engine stuff needs to be tip top before adding power. Wouldn’t hurt to do a full compression test on all 8 pots to make sure they’re all equal and still high.
I will ask the installer/ tuner to check those items but Im almost fairly certain my engine is in good shape. I have no leaks, the oil pressure still reads the same as the day I bought it and the oil is still fairly clean when I change it.
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Will the LT4 HPFP and injectors suffice or do I need to upgrade further?
If you’re staying in the 580-600 WHP range the LT4 in-tank pump, LT4 HPFP, and LT4 injectors will let you run plenty of E to keep your engine happy. Do a search for some of KingLT1’s posts in this forum…he routinely posts how much E you can run on certain combinations. But I ran that same fueling setup when I first supercharged my motor and ran E50 or so no problem (might have been more but can’t remember squat lol).

Going port injection now (TooHighPSI or equal) will future proof you on that front and is a smart move should you decide to ever turn up the boost. Something to think about.
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