[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I would sport the GT350 or their Raptor trucks but that's about it.

Just go to any ford dealer and see how big their service department is.....enough said.

So they suck because their service departments are small? Are all service departments at Ford dealerships the same size? Are we talking square footage or quantity of team members.

You aren't making much sense here but it's my thread and we can have fun with it if you want.

[rebelyell22]

Guess Toyota's are extremely unreliable... They have huge service departments

[BLK141SS]

The old ECOTEC 4 banger in my Cobalt is pretty stout. I've carried 4 people on several occasions with the A/C on and the thing never bogged. I also test drove a 2014 BMW 320i with a 4 banger, that thing was eye opening! You can do a lot with a 4 banger. I expect the Camaro 4 will be no slouch.

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by BLK141SS

The old ECOTEC 4 banger in my Cobalt is pretty stout. I've carried 4 people on several occasions with the A/C on and the thing never bogged. I also test drove a 2014 BMW 320i with a 4 banger, that thing was eye opening! You can do a lot with a 4 banger. I expect the Camaro 4 will be no slouch.

My 2.0L Ecotec put out 290bhp and 340 lb/ft, and the torque curve was a wet dream.



And BTW, It is my opinion that dealer service centers are intended to perform maintenance at a profit, not to fix up the completely unreliable cars they sell.

[BLK141SS]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

My 2.0L Ecotec put out 290bhp and 340 lb/ft, and the torque curve was a wet dream.



And BTW, It is my opinion that dealer service centers are intended to perform maintenance at a profit, not to fix up the completely unreliable cars they sell.

Yep, they're fun little engines, reliable too. My Cobalt Ecotec 2.2 has 154k on it and doesn't burn a drop of oil. I expect to get 200k before getting rid of it. Still on the original clutch too.

[102SS]

This kid had one(Turbo 4 Stang) at the track in May and ran a bunch of low 14's at 97/98 mph.

He said his best ever was a 13.7 at 101

He had a tune exhaust and CAI.

[rebelyell22]

Originally Posted by 102SS

This kid had one(Turbo 4 Stang) at the track in May and ran a bunch of low 14's at 97/98 mph.

He said his best ever was a 13.7 at 101

He had a tune exhaust and CAI.

They run 13.7 stock, lol. They run high 12's with a tune, CAI, and radials

[Jasper]

And sound like ass doing it.

[cadyshac]

I will keep all 8 cylinders, thank you!

[ChrisBlair]

Kitchener! Milt Schmidt's hometown!

Truth be told, my '70 Buick with the 462 cubic inch engine, much more torque, and the same weight as a 5Gen 1SS coupe makes my '12 SS sound like a joke.

But my '12 SS would spank it seven ways till Sunday in any race.

A 4 cylinder car doesn't have to sound like a can of farts, either.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

Car is too heavy, engine is too small. They should just turbo the 3.6 then they would really have something (like decreased SS sales)

Well the 6th gen isn't an overweight coupe built off an already overweight full size sedan platform like the 5th gen. So the LTG shouldn't have an issue performing extremely well.

Read up on ATS 2.0T reviews. There are folks out there who actually prefer it to the LFX.

Discounting modern turbo 4s, particularly GM's turbo 4s, is foolish.

[1Canuck]

Prius owners and Camaro owners that put their weekend ride away every winter will have something in common. A beautiful & economical DD option.

[mickss]

Originally Posted by SS376

Obama and the EPA have mandated a CAFE fleet average of 54.5 mpg by 2025. It's ridiculous and only achievable by drastically shrinking displacement and massively curtailing our freedom to choose what cars we want to drive. Enjoy your V8 and get ready for a 4 cylinder future.

It`s actually closer to 40 MPG, there's also is a mid-term review scheduled for 2019 that could also change that requirement, but I suppose that doesn`t stop some from trying to make a political statement without all the known facts to consider.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...lly-mean-54-5/

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...--not-54-5-mpg

[Moto-Mojo]

Have I logged onto the wrong forum? I wait 40 years to get a true muscle car, join a Camaro forum and now we're talking the virtues of a 4 cylinder car? (some at least) I've driven weak offerings from almost everyone over the years because I rent a lot. Most 4 CYL cars are borderline dangerous they're so slow. Just one man's opinion but I think modding a 4 banger for performance is pointless unless it was some kind of racing mandate or something.

I for one don't welcome the future. In fact, I may have bought my last car!