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Old 07-14-2022, 10:28 AM   #1
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Advice on ZL1 1LE purchase

Hey all, new to the forum. I am coming from some german cars that I tracked all the time at the VIR, including a 2012 V10 R8, and a 2018 GT3. Those were phenomenal cars, but I didn't drive them as much as I thought I would, and really only used them at the track. I don't want to have as much money tied up in the car, so as I may wait for Z06's to become available in a few years, I have put my focus on the ZL1, which seem to really perform well at the VIR.


I would really like to get some info on what to look out for on used 2019+ ZLI 1LE's. Are they any consistent issues to look out for that a used car would show? Are there options to definitely get, and those to look out for? Are their any supercharger or brake issues to look for?

I really appreciate any info.
thx
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Old 07-14-2022, 10:39 AM   #2
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Nothing really to be concerned about. They are a pretty reliable platform. Some of the 17 & early 18 models had some oil pump failures, but even the odds of that are pretty low.
The ZLE is a great setup for the track in stock form. Really the only option on the ZLE would be PDR which is a pretty cool feature especially for tracking.
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Old 07-14-2022, 11:33 AM   #3
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Nothing really to be concerned about. They are a pretty reliable platform. Some of the 17 & early 18 models had some oil pump failures, but even the odds of that are pretty low.
The ZLE is a great setup for the track in stock form. Really the only option on the ZLE would be PDR which is a pretty cool feature especially for tracking.
Good to hear. Thanks for the info. Looking forward to getting one out on the track.
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Old 07-14-2022, 12:39 PM   #4
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I'll second that the PDR is a very useful option for tracking. Attached a screengrab below of the overlay and info you get from the in-car video.

Once you get the car, download Cosworth Toolbox & Pi Toolbox on a PC. In addition to the video footage of your laps with information overlaid, you get tons of telemetry data to comb through and analyze with those pieces of software.

This can all be accomplished with aftermarket products like AiM Solo 2 or Garmin Catalyst, but it's pretty cool to have this stock from the factory.
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:09 PM   #5
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I'll second that the PDR is a very useful option for tracking. Attached a screengrab below of the overlay and info you get from the in-car video.

Once you get the car, download Cosworth Toolbox & Pi Toolbox on a PC. In addition to the video footage of your laps with information overlaid, you get tons of telemetry data to comb through and analyze with those pieces of software.

This can all be accomplished with aftermarket products like AiM Solo 2 or Garmin Catalyst, but it's pretty cool to have this stock from the factory.
Appreciate the info. I have a catalyst left over from my GT3. So, I guess it's not a must, but I do see how nice it is having it from the factory.
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Old 07-14-2022, 04:03 PM   #6
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Hey all, new to the forum. I am coming from some german cars that I tracked all the time at the VIR, including a 2012 V10 R8, and a 2018 GT3. Those were phenomenal cars, but I didn't drive them as much as I thought I would, and really only used them at the track. I don't want to have as much money tied up in the car, so as I may wait for Z06's to become available in a few years, I have put my focus on the ZL1, which seem to really perform well at the VIR.


I would really like to get some info on what to look out for on used 2019+ ZLI 1LE's. Are they any consistent issues to look out for that a used car would show? Are there options to definitely get, and those to look out for? Are their any supercharger or brake issues to look for?

I really appreciate any info.
thx
The ZL1/1LE is virtually perfect out of the box.

Suggestions -
  • Get the Manual
  • Highly suggest getting the SPL Rear Toe Rods installed as it locks out the stock eccentric washers which have a tendency to change toe settings.
  • Get CT5V Blackwing Front Brake cooling ducts installed permanently. Quite impressive brake/rotor cooling.
  • Install Katech Ported Throttle Body (Improves throttle response). The stock throttle body is the same one they have in diesel trucks.
  • Green Air Filter (to replace stock air filter)
  • Delete the Secondary Cats at your local muffler shop as they are unmonitored. It adds more pops/crackles with less restriction.
  • Pick an axle back exhaust of your choice (AWE, MBRP, Corsa w/NPP etc.)
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Old 07-14-2022, 04:04 PM   #7
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The stock 3Rs don’t make for good street tires because they don’t grip well when they are cold & suck in the rain. If you plan on driving her on the street & track, I would recommend getting a second set of wheels so you can have a street setup & track setup
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Old 07-14-2022, 04:39 PM   #8
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The ZL1/1LE is virtually perfect out of the box.[*]Get CT5V Blackwing Front Brake cooling ducts installed permanently. Quite impressive brake/rotor cooling.[/LIST]
Do you happen to have the part numbers needed for this upgrade? This is the first I've heard of it and would like to add it to my 2022 ZLE with the copper free brakes (assuming it fits that combo).
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Old 07-14-2022, 07:30 PM   #9
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Do you happen to have the part numbers needed for this upgrade? This is the first I've heard of it and would like to add it to my 2022 ZLE with the copper free brakes (assuming it fits that combo).
From my "treasure notes": CTS-V Blackwing track brake deflectors: 85536980 (left), 85536981 (right).
Here's to hoping it isn't backordered all over the country
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Old 07-14-2022, 07:48 PM   #10
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The stock 3Rs don’t make for good street tires because they don’t grip well when they are cold & suck in the rain. If you plan on driving her on the street & track, I would recommend getting a second set of wheels so you can have a street setup & track setup
I agree you should get second set of wheels, but I would go with 18s. This gives you more options for slicks including Pirelli and Michelin, you wont find true non-DOT slicks in many 19" sizes and basically zero take offs.

18" take-off Pirelli DH are a great low cost alternative to 3R, I always bring a set of each to the track. DH slicks (new or good takeoff) are the only tire that is equal to 3R on my ZLE, but they dont last as long.
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Old 07-14-2022, 07:57 PM   #11
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The ZL1/1LE is virtually perfect out of the box.

Suggestions -
  • Get the Manual
  • Highly suggest getting the SPL Rear Toe Rods installed as it locks out the stock eccentric washers which have a tendency to change toe settings.
  • Get CT5V Blackwing Front Brake cooling ducts installed permanently. Quite impressive brake/rotor cooling.
  • Install Katech Ported Throttle Body (Improves throttle response). The stock throttle body is the same one they have in diesel trucks.
  • Green Air Filter (to replace stock air filter)
  • Delete the Secondary Cats at your local muffler shop as they are unmonitored. It adds more pops/crackles with less restriction.
  • Pick an axle back exhaust of your choice (AWE, MBRP, Corsa w/NPP etc.)
These are solid suggestions, but also... just track her in stock form a bunch and get to know the car before you mod

But, yeah, get the manual!
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Old 07-14-2022, 09:38 PM   #12
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There are no major issues to look out for and as you already noted, its hard to beat the performance per $. The other big advantage is the low cost of consumables such as brakes and tires compared to other vehicles that perform similarly.

I have two recommendations - 1) Don't make any modifications (including non-OEM pads) until you are pretty familiar with the car on the track and the options available. 2) Use Castrol SRF brake fluid.

Have fun!
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Old 07-15-2022, 08:31 AM   #13
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Agreed with a lot of above. If you love to track, get the manual. Castrol SRF change and keep everything OEM until you figure out the car. The stock brakes are phenomenal and really dont need pad upgrades until you are really pushing hard consistently and you go to a stickier tire (slicks)

I do recommend an exhaust, not for power but because the car becomes alive and makes you smile all the the time
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Old 07-15-2022, 11:58 AM   #14
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The ZL1/1LE is virtually perfect out of the box.

Suggestions -
  • Get the Manual
  • Highly suggest getting the SPL Rear Toe Rods installed as it locks out the stock eccentric washers which have a tendency to change toe settings.
  • Get CT5V Blackwing Front Brake cooling ducts installed permanently. Quite impressive brake/rotor cooling.
  • Install Katech Ported Throttle Body (Improves throttle response). The stock throttle body is the same one they have in diesel trucks.
  • Green Air Filter (to replace stock air filter)
  • Delete the Secondary Cats at your local muffler shop as they are unmonitored. It adds more pops/crackles with less restriction.
  • Pick an axle back exhaust of your choice (AWE, MBRP, Corsa w/NPP etc.)

Solid suggestions, thank you!
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