Polymers vs Silica: a long term shootout.... - Page 3

Glen e · 06-18-2017, 06:52 PM

Yup, you get it.....

Nope, no changes yet , I figure I'll post pictures every month or so. Now I just wipe the section off with a flooded MF with water so far.

SSTony · 06-22-2017, 07:46 AM

So I am about 3 weeks out from using Blackfire Crystal seal. This stuff is amazing. I do have a question. When I wash my car I used to use a spray detail called lucas spray mist to help with water spots and towel drying. Should I not be doing that with the Blackcrystal? If not thats fine but is there a product that is safe to do it with? A safe quick detail spray.

Glen e · 06-22-2017, 08:01 AM

You don't use Crystal seal as a quick detailer or to clean up after a wash, it is a final step unto itself and should be applied anywhere between three and six months. You can use any quick detailer over crystal seal that you want to. Carpro ECH02 Is the latest and greatest quick detail/rinseless waterless product. You could even spray it on a wet car after washing and then when you dry, you're putting on a thin coating......

http://www.autogeek.net/carpro-ech20.html

SSTony · 06-22-2017, 01:34 PM

I didn't use blackfire as a spray mist. I want something after putting it on. Like lucas spray mist or if there is something better what is it?

bpang1234 · 06-22-2017, 02:15 PM

Glen...isn't that stuff you showed us a few weeks ago Silica too? The one you spary while the car is wet then rinse off.

How has that been for you?

Glen e · 06-22-2017, 02:16 PM

I have not used ech02 as a drying agent yet.....but others have reported they like it.

Jerry's 2LT · 06-22-2017, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSTony

I didn't use blackfire as a spray mist. I want something after putting it on. Like lucas spray mist or if there is something better what is it?

I have recently been using Blackfire Wet Diamond Polymer spray as a detailer.

I also use it after washing. Easy to use and I believe the shine looks better after sitting overnight. Supposedly it helps the Crystal seal last longer by enriching the polymer coating.

Mark114 · 06-29-2017, 08:57 PM

Which products (polymer or silica) do you think would be a better fit for cars with Xpel Ultimate clear bra?

Glen e · 06-29-2017, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark114

Which products (polymer or silica) do you think would be a better fit for cars with Xpel Ultimate clear bra?

Either would be fine. Silica will last longer.

timmy8784 · 06-30-2017, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen e

I have not used ech02 as a drying agent yet.....but others have reported they like it.

I am one of those who does like using Echo2 as a drying agent on my cquartz coated car.

SSport16 · 06-30-2017, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by timmy8784

I am one of those who does like using Echo2 as a drying agent on my cquartz coated car.

2nd that! I use the EcH20 and Reload mix as my drying agent, that mixture is awesome!

Mark114 · 07-02-2017, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen e

Either would be fine. Silica will last longer.

Thanks for the great information! I've been a Zaino guy for years but product is running out and now is the perfect time for me to look at alternatives.

With a clear bra I can't run a polisher. Do I skip the polish products and go straight from wash to the top coat or there an intermediate step I should perform with these product families?

Glen e · 07-02-2017, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark114

Thanks for the great information! I've been a Zaino guy for years but product is running out and now is the perfect time for me to look at alternatives.

With a clear bra I can't run a polisher. Do I skip the polish products and go straight from wash to the top coat or there an intermediate step I should perform with these product families?

Yup, no polish on films......dawn wash straight to last step product.....

Hyper16 · 07-02-2017, 11:40 AM

06-18-2017, 06:52 PM	#29
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	Yup, you get it..... Nope, no changes yet , I figure I'll post pictures every month or so. Now I just wipe the section off with a flooded MF with water so far. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

06-22-2017, 07:46 AM	#30
SSTony Drives: SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Piscataway NJ Posts: 1,782 View My Garage	So I am about 3 weeks out from using Blackfire Crystal seal. This stuff is amazing. I do have a question. When I wash my car I used to use a spray detail called lucas spray mist to help with water spots and towel drying. Should I not be doing that with the Blackcrystal? If not thats fine but is there a product that is safe to do it with? A safe quick detail spray. __________________

06-22-2017, 08:01 AM	#31
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	You don't use Crystal seal as a quick detailer or to clean up after a wash, it is a final step unto itself and should be applied anywhere between three and six months. You can use any quick detailer over crystal seal that you want to. Carpro ECH02 Is the latest and greatest quick detail/rinseless waterless product. You could even spray it on a wet car after washing and then when you dry, you're putting on a thin coating...... http://www.autogeek.net/carpro-ech20.html __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

06-22-2017, 01:34 PM	#32
SSTony Drives: SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Piscataway NJ Posts: 1,782 View My Garage	I didn't use blackfire as a spray mist. I want something after putting it on. Like lucas spray mist or if there is something better what is it? __________________

06-22-2017, 02:15 PM	#33
bpang1234 You can only YOLO once. Drives: '16 2SS & '15 Subaru Forester Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Albany, OR Posts: 1,677	Glen...isn't that stuff you showed us a few weeks ago Silica too? The one you spary while the car is wet then rinse off. How has that been for you? __________________ 2016 Camaro 2ss -Summit White / Ceramic White -8A, NPP, MRC, Ceramic White package plus knee pads, black bowties. -1st Car to have the "full" SEMA High Performance Graphics kit from 6LEDesigns. -1st Car to have the 6LEDesigns Blade Spoiler. -Borla S-Type w/ custom H-Pipe -Procharger P-1X Stage 2

06-22-2017, 02:16 PM	#34
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	I have not used ech02 as a drying agent yet.....but others have reported they like it. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

06-29-2017, 08:57 PM	#36
Mark114 Drives: 2016 2SS Convertible Join Date: May 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,711 View My Garage	Which products (polymer or silica) do you think would be a better fit for cars with Xpel Ultimate clear bra?

07-02-2017, 11:40 AM	#42
Hyper16 A Heartbeat Away......... Drives: Not As Fast As I Would Like To Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,379	__________________ ,,,,,,, 2016 Hyper Blue Metallic 2SS \| A8 \| MRC \| Sunroof \| Nav \| Mishimoto Catch Can \| GM CAI \| Hurst Shifter \| Borla S-Type Exhaust \| Body Color Splash Guards \| 1LE Splitter \| GM Dark Tail Lights \| ZL1 Third Brake Light \| Custom Fuel Door, Badges & Bowties \| Oracle Side Markers \| Blacked Out Stuff \| Opti-Coat Pro+ The problem with this world is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be penalties for stupidity, but why don't we just take the warning labels off everything and let the problem solve itself.

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