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Old 12-06-2018, 08:48 PM   #15
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No worries Cooper, Nice Numbers!! Are you still seeing any KR?


DarkFangz, is the car running smooth?...the sensor should be able to read what the car is putting out?


Here is another pull: The tune is turned up a little in this one.

Gear: 3rd

Mods: Injen intak, ZZP catted, Mishimoto intercooler

Few details from the log:

Barometric : 14.4 psi

IAT: 70 deg
IAT2: 90 deg

Ambient: 66 deg

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Intercooler was causing issues with throttle response....will pull again tomorrow max I got cruising was 275
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:59 PM   #16
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Are you still seeing any KR?
Yes. But it falls within factory tune specs, and after many, many logs, I've no concern. I believe its mostly TM and trans characteristics. My TCM is in the mail too HPT as I type. But, this is a lengthy conv. that should take place in another thread. As are many of the topics coming up here. Like I said before... Nice thread!!
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:08 AM   #17
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Here are my numbers from HP tuners. In reality, on the dyno I saw like 775whp and 735wtq.


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I am not exactly sure why, but on HP tuner, my torque maxes out at 640 and doesn't move. . .but the HP numbers have been pretty darn close to whp numbers on the dyno. In fact, on the street I see a little higher HP number because when the car is moving I get a little additional timing.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:51 AM   #18
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Look at these SS builds coming in here looking all fancy.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:32 AM   #19
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https://imgur.com/a/2FDId0v

feels a bit low...need a retuen haven't tuned since the car was stock
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:47 AM   #20
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Honestly Evil, if V8 guys that have Dyno numbers along with data from HP tuners to compare with it will help get the ball rolling initially. I mean we don't need flooded with there stuff, they can create their own thread for that lol.

Its pretty promising that his HP tuners is within 4 % of the dyno numbers though !!








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Old 12-07-2018, 09:53 AM   #21
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https://imgur.com/a/2FDId0v

feels a bit low...need a retuen haven't tuned since the car was stock
You got something wrong there bro.
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Honestly Evil, if V8 guys that have Dyno numbers along with data from HP tuners to compare with it will help get the ball rolling initially. I mean we don't need flooded with there stuff, they can create their own thread for that lol.

Its pretty promising that his HP tuners is within 4 % of the dyno numbers though !!
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They already got a big thread on this topic. The majority of guys were seeing very similar number compared to dyno results. Always a little bit more in HPT, but thats to be expected. Your not sitting with a fan pointed at the engine.
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:16 AM   #22
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You got something wrong there bro.
Rpm Motorsports did my last tune....going to see if ZZP can correct the issues
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:58 AM   #23
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Rpm Motorsports did my last tune....going to see if ZZP can correct the issues
RPM lol.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:02 AM   #24
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RPM lol.
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My bad. I saw the subject scanning through the forum on my phone and didnt realize it was in a different subsection. I did have a similar thread in a different t tuning section.
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:23 PM   #26
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Hot Florida Day HP Tuners Virtual Dyno Pull

300 HP 380 TQ around 4100 RPM

331 HP 351 TQ around 4900 RPM
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:27 PM   #27
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ok.. so I guess I am coming to the party late you guys.



couple of questions.



Would anyone volunteer to make a tutorial on what product and process is used to collect the data, and a rough order of suitability




for example I have a ELM ODBLink MX+ and an android app either Torque
or Car Scan - useful to check and clear codes but has a logging function - dubious accuracy in their respective forums.

....

in between other free / demo ware used.
....

HP Tuners is probably the defacto standard.


If its too steep of an uplift I understand.



All we need is a torque number and the parts bolted on and which gear is in the record/ image snip?




FWIW - my dyno guy suggested 18-19 percent loss on M6 based on his experience.



I was also looking for an oppty to discuss dyno aka the vendor stock chart in my dyno chart post. I have reason to think the vendor chart is accurate.



272 tq at the wheel factory. 295 engine factory. that's an 8 percent drop in tq

219 hp at the wheel factory. 275 engine factory. that a 19.4 percent drop hp.


But torque is the practical result - hp is derived. Does anyone agree HP is really "just" a relative variable that shows how much Work is being lost at a particular rate of wheel rpm? And more importantly why does it take increasingly more Work as rpm increases, at the same time torque is seen decreasing.. Esp when a car is strapped to the floor lol..


If I shorted out, sorry about that the bruins are up 3-0... 4-0. ....
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:22 PM   #28
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Torque is measurable and HP is calculated via the formula on the first page of this forum

So basically if your device has the ability to read and display the vehicles torque PID, you can calculate the hp and post up your numbers.
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