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Old 07-30-2016, 10:15 AM   #1
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fore or not fore

Hi guys,sometimes something come up in my mindo and i'm here asking questions.

Now it's the time for a fuel mod. I have installed in the car a zl1 fuel pump with the adm fuel pump control module which works very good.I don't have fuel problem at all. I'm running 10 psi but i'm thinkin to raise the boost to 12psi so a bit more of gasoline could be necessary and since i'll be in new york soon,like in september,I'd like to buy everything over there and saving money over the ****ing Italian import taxes ( 700$ more just in taxes)

I looked intop the Fore site and I made this configuration

it's a L1 system

Primary Fuel Pump


Walbro GSS342 [ +$90.00 ]
AEM 50-1000 [ +$102.00 ]
AEM 50-1200 [ +$123.00 ]
TI Auto F90000262 [ +$145.00 ]
TI Auto F90000267 [ +$170.00 ]
TI Auto F90000274 [ +$175.00 ]
Secondary Fuel Pump(s)

Walbro GSS342 [ +$90.00 ]
AEM 50-1000 [ +$102.00 ]
AEM 50-1200 [ +$123.00 ]
TI Auto F90000262 [ +$145.00 ]
TI Auto F90000267 [ +$170.00 ]
TI Auto F90000274 [ +$175.00 ]
Electrical Upgrade

None (I have my own fuses, wiring, relays, etc)
FC2 Controller with 6 gauge wiring [ +$199.00 ]
FC3 Staged Controller with 4 gauge wiring [ +$239.00 ]
Sealed Delphi Connector and 7' 12 AWG pigtail only [ +$25.00 ]
Fuel Lines

Teflon -8 Feed / Return
Startlite -8 Feed / Return
Teflon -10 Feed / -8 Return [ +$65.00 ]
Startlite -10 Feed, -8 Return [ +$65.00 ]
Filtration Media

Cellulose
Microglass SSD [ +$19.00 ]
Stainless Steel [ +$32.00 ]
Fuel Filter Upgrades

Upgrade to 128mm Filter [ +$30.00 ]

Add billet mounting bracket [ +$40.00 ]

Add filter monitoring gauge and fitting [ +$54.00 ]
System Options


0-100 psi Fuel Pressure Gauge [ +$24.00 ]


Upgrade to multiport F4i regulator [ +$76.00 ]

Honeywell Pressure Switch for FC3 [ +$42.00 ]


Flex fuel sensor intercept kit [ +$69.00 ]

Boost / Vacuum Manifold Kit [ +$75.00 ]

What do you guys think about it?
Should i upgrade the fuel sistem or leave what i have??

p.s. I sent a mail to the Fore customer service asking for info and they sail that my id850 are the bottleneck and i should have gotten the id1300 due to the 3 bar base fuel pressure.


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Old 07-30-2016, 10:39 AM   #2
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ID850s will max out a whipple. No issue there.

I would just call AGP and order their fuel system. Save some money and works just as well.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:40 AM   #3
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ID850s will max out a whipple. No issue there.

I would just call AGP and order their fuel system. Save some money and works just as well.
oh really? why they told me that. Did they trz to sell me also the injectors?
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:46 AM   #4
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Unless you are going e85, which I doubt they have in Italy.

850s will support ~850rwhp just fine, which is really pushing and maxing out a whipple. If you plan on 900+ then yes you will neeed large injectors, or if you plan on e85, but on gas, you are fine.

Plus there is no reason you have to run 3 bar base pressure. So run 4 bar if you want, and you gain a lot of injector head room.

If you really want ID1300s, I'll sell you mine. I may swap to 2000s to crank it up. My 1300s are just about tapped out at 1200rwhp on e85.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:07 AM   #5
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Unless you are going e85, which I doubt they have in Italy.

850s will support ~850rwhp just fine, which is really pushing and maxing out a whipple. If you plan on 900+ then yes you will neeed large injectors, or if you plan on e85, but on gas, you are fine.

Plus there is no reason you have to run 3 bar base pressure. So run 4 bar if you want, and you gain a lot of injector head room.

If you really want ID1300s, I'll sell you mine. I may swap to 2000s to crank it up. My 1300s are just about tapped out at 1200rwhp on e85.
in italy we don't ave the e85 and we barely fine premium fuel. i'm getting mine in switzerland which is also cheap. I'm not planmning to go so savage i will be ok around 800hp to the engine so id840 is just enought. beside the injectors i should rebuild the engine to reach extreme power but right now is not what i want to do.( i have no time indeed)

i'm also planning to add the meth in a future but it is not sure.i dont' wanna live with the fear of running out of the meth.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:24 AM   #6
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Unless you are going e85, which I doubt they have in Italy.

850s will support ~850rwhp just fine, which is really pushing and maxing out a whipple. If you plan on 900+ then yes you will neeed large injectors, or if you plan on e85, but on gas, you are fine.

Plus there is no reason you have to run 3 bar base pressure. So run 4 bar if you want, and you gain a lot of injector head room.

If you really want ID1300s, I'll sell you mine. I may swap to 2000s to crank it up. My 1300s are just about tapped out at 1200rwhp on e85.
How much u selling your id1300? I'm planning go AGP fuel system on e85
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Old 07-30-2016, 12:54 PM   #7
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How much u selling your id1300? I'm planning go AGP fuel system on e85
Wasn't planning on selling them, but if your serious PM me. Probably in the $1600 range.
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Old 07-30-2016, 03:06 PM   #8
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Just go with the AGP setup, its cheaper, and the electrical stuff is better. ID850s are plen ty I wouldn't touch them.
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:00 PM   #9
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I chacked the agp site and looked the pump. i didn't really understand whats in the kit or not. beside that, wich pump i should select? the e85 one?
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:04 PM   #10
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Any of the pump options will max out your whipple and support over 1000rwhp on gas. So the dual 320, dual 450, or any of them.
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:47 PM   #11
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I chacked the agp site and looked the pump. i didn't really understand whats in the kit or not. beside that, wich pump i should select? the e85 one?
Just the base dual 320lph pumps will be more than enough for you.
So in the pull down options you don't need to select any of the upgrades since you aren't going E85.

Description from the website
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Billet fuel pump assembly with choice of pumps
Complete -8 feed line and all fittings
Custom fittings to use factory line as return
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Regulator w/ gauge get's mounted under hood
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Just don't accidentally choose the three pump options
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Just don't accidentally choose the three pump options

Haha. No, please do
Gotta get the web guy to fix that.
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Haha. No, please do
Gotta get the web guy to fix that.
How much triple system for e85 with everything ( with fuel rails)???
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