07-30-2016, 10:15 AM | #1 |
Drives: camaro ss\rs Join Date: Jun 2014
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fore or not fore
Hi guys,sometimes something come up in my mindo and i'm here asking questions.
Now it's the time for a fuel mod. I have installed in the car a zl1 fuel pump with the adm fuel pump control module which works very good.I don't have fuel problem at all. I'm running 10 psi but i'm thinkin to raise the boost to 12psi so a bit more of gasoline could be necessary and since i'll be in new york soon,like in september,I'd like to buy everything over there and saving money over the ****ing Italian import taxes ( 700$ more just in taxes) I looked intop the Fore site and I made this configuration it's a L1 system Primary Fuel Pump Walbro GSS342 [ +$90.00 ] AEM 50-1000 [ +$102.00 ] AEM 50-1200 [ +$123.00 ] TI Auto F90000262 [ +$145.00 ] TI Auto F90000267 [ +$170.00 ] TI Auto F90000274 [ +$175.00 ] Secondary Fuel Pump(s) Walbro GSS342 [ +$90.00 ] AEM 50-1000 [ +$102.00 ] AEM 50-1200 [ +$123.00 ] TI Auto F90000262 [ +$145.00 ] TI Auto F90000267 [ +$170.00 ] TI Auto F90000274 [ +$175.00 ] Electrical Upgrade None (I have my own fuses, wiring, relays, etc) FC2 Controller with 6 gauge wiring [ +$199.00 ] FC3 Staged Controller with 4 gauge wiring [ +$239.00 ] Sealed Delphi Connector and 7' 12 AWG pigtail only [ +$25.00 ] Fuel Lines Teflon -8 Feed / Return Startlite -8 Feed / Return Teflon -10 Feed / -8 Return [ +$65.00 ] Startlite -10 Feed, -8 Return [ +$65.00 ] Filtration Media Cellulose Microglass SSD [ +$19.00 ] Stainless Steel [ +$32.00 ] Fuel Filter Upgrades Upgrade to 128mm Filter [ +$30.00 ] Add billet mounting bracket [ +$40.00 ] Add filter monitoring gauge and fitting [ +$54.00 ] System Options 0-100 psi Fuel Pressure Gauge [ +$24.00 ] Upgrade to multiport F4i regulator [ +$76.00 ] Honeywell Pressure Switch for FC3 [ +$42.00 ] Flex fuel sensor intercept kit [ +$69.00 ] Boost / Vacuum Manifold Kit [ +$75.00 ] What do you guys think about it? Should i upgrade the fuel sistem or leave what i have?? p.s. I sent a mail to the Fore customer service asking for info and they sail that my id850 are the bottleneck and i should have gotten the id1300 due to the 3 bar base fuel pressure. thanks
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2014 camaro SS Whipple powered ,3.750 pulley,ID850, CAI,Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust,MGW racing shifter,Bo White ported tb,MightyMouse Catch Can,Vitesse throttle controller,GM 3.91 rear end, Dynatech longtube haders, BTR Pd cam,Fluidampr stock pulley,ZL1 fuel pump and ADM fpcm, Phastek scoop and fluid thank relocation Bmr Motor mount . Tuned by Mastuning
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07-30-2016, 10:39 AM | #2 |
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ID850s will max out a whipple. No issue there.
I would just call AGP and order their fuel system. Save some money and works just as well.
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07-30-2016, 10:40 AM | #3 |
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oh really? why they told me that. Did they trz to sell me also the injectors?
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2014 camaro SS Whipple powered ,3.750 pulley,ID850, CAI,Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust,MGW racing shifter,Bo White ported tb,MightyMouse Catch Can,Vitesse throttle controller,GM 3.91 rear end, Dynatech longtube haders, BTR Pd cam,Fluidampr stock pulley,ZL1 fuel pump and ADM fpcm, Phastek scoop and fluid thank relocation Bmr Motor mount . Tuned by Mastuning
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07-30-2016, 10:46 AM | #4 |
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Unless you are going e85, which I doubt they have in Italy.
850s will support ~850rwhp just fine, which is really pushing and maxing out a whipple. If you plan on 900+ then yes you will neeed large injectors, or if you plan on e85, but on gas, you are fine. Plus there is no reason you have to run 3 bar base pressure. So run 4 bar if you want, and you gain a lot of injector head room. If you really want ID1300s, I'll sell you mine. I may swap to 2000s to crank it up. My 1300s are just about tapped out at 1200rwhp on e85.
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07-30-2016, 11:07 AM | #5 | |
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i'm also planning to add the meth in a future but it is not sure.i dont' wanna live with the fear of running out of the meth.
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07-30-2016, 11:24 AM | #6 | |
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AGP TT 807whp 811wtq 13.46psi E85+methanol
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07-30-2016, 12:54 PM | #7 |
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Wasn't planning on selling them, but if your serious PM me. Probably in the $1600 range.
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07-30-2016, 03:06 PM | #8 |
Too much is never enough!
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Just go with the AGP setup, its cheaper, and the electrical stuff is better. ID850s are plen ty I wouldn't touch them.
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AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq
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07-31-2016, 03:00 PM | #9 |
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I chacked the agp site and looked the pump. i didn't really understand whats in the kit or not. beside that, wich pump i should select? the e85 one?
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2014 camaro SS Whipple powered ,3.750 pulley,ID850, CAI,Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust,MGW racing shifter,Bo White ported tb,MightyMouse Catch Can,Vitesse throttle controller,GM 3.91 rear end, Dynatech longtube haders, BTR Pd cam,Fluidampr stock pulley,ZL1 fuel pump and ADM fpcm, Phastek scoop and fluid thank relocation Bmr Motor mount . Tuned by Mastuning
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07-31-2016, 03:04 PM | #10 |
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Any of the pump options will max out your whipple and support over 1000rwhp on gas. So the dual 320, dual 450, or any of them.
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07-31-2016, 06:47 PM | #11 | |
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So in the pull down options you don't need to select any of the upgrades since you aren't going E85. Description from the website Includes- Billet fuel pump assembly with choice of pumps Complete -8 feed line and all fittings Custom fittings to use factory line as return -8 line to fuel rail and all fittings Regulator w/ gauge get's mounted under hood Sealed dual 40A relay wiring harness w/ hobbs switch |
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07-31-2016, 06:58 PM | #12 |
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Just don't accidentally choose the three pump options
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Cai intake and a few other mods😎
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07-31-2016, 07:32 PM | #13 |
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07-31-2016, 11:14 PM | #14 |
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How much triple system for e85 with everything ( with fuel rails)???
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