02-10-2019, 04:49 PM | #169 |
Drives: 17' 1SS 1LE GBA-Black Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: TLV
Posts: 810
|
The story about the damage these techs did made me furious - They should account for what they did! Can the part of the dashboard around the display be replaced? Wheels for sure can.
As to the sound - Seems like the PAC needs proper adjustment. Your gear is top notch! If the speakers in the doors are installed correctly and damping material (I.E. Roadkill, Etc.) has been applied correctly, then you should get decent kick-drum / mid-base. |
02-10-2019, 07:12 PM | #170 |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,920
|
The wheel is getting refinished so we'll see how that goes. Not sure if anything can be done about the dash. At least that one is small.
I have SoundSkins in the doors and trunk. Turning up the gain on the amplifier today made a big difference. But I still feel that tweeters are too bright to be placed by the windshield. Knowing what I know now, I would try a 2-2.5" in the factory location and see how that plays with the stock system. Add some 6x9 subs to the rear deck and be done with it. But while it would add lows and highs, it needs a time alignment to make it all sound cohesive. Ideally something like these in the dash https://www.crutchfield.com/S-fhhXmm...l-CCWR254.html http://store.12velectronics.com/u2-2...e-speaker-set/ with 6x9s in the doors https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HO5HAi...rog-GS690.html http://store.12velectronics.com/unit...s-speaker-set/ some kind of slim woofer in the rear side panels, and subs in the deck https://www.parts-express.com/tang-b...oofer--264-837 all run off an 8 channel amp/DSP via optical connection. https://www.crutchfield.com/p_136986...-VX800-8i.html https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/h...rs/v-eight-dsp If that doesn't sound good maybe try the NAVTV, if that still doesn't work it's not worth spending more to me. Last edited by WhyUMad1LE; 02-10-2019 at 07:59 PM. |
02-11-2019, 04:51 PM | #171 |
Drives: 17' 1SS 1LE GBA-Black Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: TLV
Posts: 810
|
Glad you got the sound improved a bit.
Why is it that you opt for 6x9s? Is this the stock/OE cut-out of the speakers in the doors and side panels? I thought that they were round drivers... Regarding the DSP - it is a fine unit, however, Amp power is too low. You would require additional Amps |
02-11-2019, 05:55 PM | #172 |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,920
|
You could get a Helix P Six and a monoblock. I feel that you need 7 channels to do a 6th gen system right.
The factory door speakers are 6x9 subwoofers which is how they got so much bass. The only full range in the car are 5.25” behind the seats. Honestly I’m probably going back to stock door speakers and adding 2-3” dash speakers with rear 6x9s. The Audison components sound great when my ear is even halfway on axis to them. In a door panel like below they would be perfect. But the Camaro has front speakers in the furthest corners of the door and dash. This is why it comes with oversize drivers stock. Last edited by WhyUMad1LE; 02-11-2019 at 11:16 PM. |
02-12-2019, 05:33 PM | #173 |
Drives: 17' 1SS 1LE GBA-Black Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: TLV
Posts: 810
|
Ohh, I see... Camaro requires a deep thought process and planning. Not straight forward at all
|
02-14-2019, 05:53 PM | #174 |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,920
|
The door speakers are basically enclosed under your legs so you don't want to play vocals there. It will drag the soundstage down.
And for whatever acoustic reason having speakers aimed at glass makes things really bright/harsh. So you don't want tweeters in the dash. I thought about this so I got oversized silk domes and even those hurt my ears. In the rear, a full range is covered by the side panel speakers. The panel can accept up to a 6.25" diameter driver (stock is 5.25" w/ an adapter) however there is only a depth clearance of 2.25" which makes a good replacement nearly impossible to find. Finally for rear bass I never liked using a sub in the trunk, because I want to seal off the trunk from the cabin. It's also heavy, and inefficient unless you want people outside the car to hear your bass. A sub mounted to the rear deck, with a sealed box will give the cleanest sound. But since we have two holes for 6x9s I will just go with that and live without hitting sub-40hz frequencies. |
02-14-2019, 06:07 PM | #175 | |
Drives: 17' 1SS 1LE GBA-Black Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: TLV
Posts: 810
|
Quote:
|
|
02-14-2019, 07:00 PM | #176 |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,920
|
Actually yes I meant to say 6.5” I made a mistake. If you find something decent that’s thin enough let me know. I see the Audison AP5 some lower end Rainbow speakers and that’s about it. The other options include tweeters which screw up the rear fill.
|
02-15-2019, 06:25 PM | #177 |
Drives: 17' 1SS 1LE GBA-Black Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: TLV
Posts: 810
|
OK, at least diameter-wise this can work with common sizes. As to the depth, I just thought that maybe an MDF ring-spacer would do the trick? What remains to check in such case is, how thick maximum, can such spacer be without hitting the inner part of the plastic panel when it is being mounted back into place.
|
02-17-2019, 03:42 PM | #178 |
Drives: 18 1LE/1SS, 08 G8 GT, 13 GTI Join Date: May 2017
Location: Davenport, IA
Posts: 56
|
|
02-18-2019, 12:08 AM | #179 | |
Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,920
|
Quote:
https://www.scan-speak.dk/products/p...le_prod_id=179 |
|
03-22-2020, 12:11 PM | #180 | |
Drives: Chevrolet SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: St. Charles, MO
Posts: 1,438
|
As a new 2020 SS 1LE owner, I appreciate all the info in this thread!
Quote:
Addendum: the answer is "no," the 2020 is the same.
__________________
Matt Miller
2020 SS 1LE Last edited by Msquared; 05-01-2020 at 04:20 PM. |
|
05-01-2020, 04:45 PM | #181 |
Drives: Chevrolet SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: St. Charles, MO
Posts: 1,438
|
I'm looking at adding a Kicker KEY200.4 to my 1LE's front speakers, enabling it as a biamp setup so it actively crosses over the door and dash speakers. I have questions:
*Thanks for posting that diagram, Ryephile!
__________________
Matt Miller
2020 SS 1LE Last edited by Msquared; 05-01-2020 at 08:16 PM. |
05-16-2020, 07:51 PM | #182 |
Drives: 2020 1SS 1LE Join Date: May 2020
Location: Nashville
Posts: 22
|
The chip amp is far from good, but it has more power than people are giving it credit for. I cranked it up to about 75%: Plenty loud for me and no distortion at that volume. I’m considering trying better speakers in the stock locations before going the fix86 and external amplifier route.
|
|
|
Post Reply
|
Thread Tools | |
|
|