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fabianl99 · 04-02-2016, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING

Check your torque management tables in your tune. My car trapped 123 first time out had no power at the track, but made great numbers on the dyno made 729 at the time but would mph 123 lol. We corrected the tables and it went 134 first pass last year,something to look at ,but best thing is to log it and see whats going on.

i have 723whp and i made 127 A6 IS OK?

SingleT · 04-02-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fabianl99

i have 723whp and i made 127 A6 IS OK?

I made over 100 less than that on the wastegate. Made a pass dialing it in and went 126 with less whp then you

fabianl99 · 04-02-2016, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SingleT

I made over 100 less than that on the wastegate. Made a pass dialing it in and went 126 with less whp then you

IM GOING TO MAKE THE SAME THING DATA LOG MY PASS

Pro Stock John · 04-02-2016, 05:56 PM

Fabian, trap speed is low in my opinion, but could be a lot of things. Converter, tune, gearing....

TOSTO RACING · 04-02-2016, 06:47 PM

I would say if you make. 723 Rwhp you should trap around 134 or so automatic or stick does not matter if a car makes 800 Rwhp auto and a stick makes 800 Rwhp they will mph the exact same , although the automatic is making more flywheel hp!

Mr. Nasty · 04-03-2016, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fabianl99

i have 723whp and i made 127 A6 IS OK?

I'm 633 RWHP auto trap speed is 135 to 137 mph. Before at 585 RWHP trap speed was 127 to 130 mph.

Redlineviper · 04-03-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nasty

I'm 633 RWHP auto trap speed is 135 to 137 mph. Before at 585 RWHP trap speed was 127 to 130 mph.

You sir are using a dyno that reads way lower than the norm. That's why dynos really need to be used as a tuning tool only.

The average camaro with 600whp traps 127-128 unless your car is way lighter than stock

Mr. Nasty · 04-03-2016, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlineviper

You sir are using a dyno that reads way lower than the norm. That's why dynos really need to be used as a tuning tool only.

The average camaro with 600whp traps 127-128 unless your car is way lighter than stock

Car weight without me is 3800lb. And in the last 5 years it has been dyno a few times. The 633 was after the meth before that it was it was 617rwhp on a different dyno. So your saying both of them are ready way low. The 585 five years ago was another machine . Low also??? I Ran the car at 585 almost 2 years on the stock fuel pump and bap how much more HP can you get with the stock pump with out running out of fuel??

It could be the a lot of the 800 plus dyno# are reading way high. For great number and selling points.

Pro Stock John · 04-03-2016, 08:14 PM

I'm running a pretty optimized head/cam/gear/converter combo, trapping 125. Maybe 3850 r/w. I'd think a full weight L99 making 725rwhp would trap 130-135 mph. Lots of cars don't run as good as they dyno because shift points are not right, other stuff not right in the tune...

fabianl99 · 04-04-2016, 04:05 PM

I GOING TO CHECK MY TQ TABLES

700HorsepowerDaily · 04-15-2016, 01:06 PM

Well I have a zl1 fuel pump and I'm thinking maybe it's not enough for the car? The car is falling on its face in 4th gear and I don't know why.

BenningJ · 04-15-2016, 02:37 PM

For reference only, my full bolt-on + cam only 2013 M6 trapped 116.48mph and I was not getting any traction. I haven't had it on a dyno yet to see my numbers but I would guess I'm only around 475rwhp.

SingleT · 04-16-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 700HorsepowerDaily

Well I have a zl1 fuel pump and I'm thinking maybe it's not enough for the car? The car is falling on its face in 4th gear and I don't know why.

Are you dropping fuel pressure during the pass?

Bo White · 04-16-2016, 11:17 AM

That's a lot of power for ZL1 pump.
I trapped 98mph in the 1/8 on 22s when I was 680rwhp. I ran 80lb injectors and ctsv pumps. Ran out of fuel any more than that.

04-02-2016, 05:56 PM	#18
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04-02-2016, 06:47 PM	#19
TOSTO RACING STOCK ELIMINATOR Drives: STOCKER Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Dragstrip Posts: 432	I would say if you make. 723 Rwhp you should trap around 134 or so automatic or stick does not matter if a car makes 800 Rwhp auto and a stick makes 800 Rwhp they will mph the exact same , although the automatic is making more flywheel hp! __________________ 5664 AA/SA 1970 NOVA Last edited by TOSTO RACING; 04-03-2016 at 06:47 AM.

04-03-2016, 08:14 PM	#23
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	I'm running a pretty optimized head/cam/gear/converter combo, trapping 125. Maybe 3850 r/w. I'd think a full weight L99 making 725rwhp would trap 130-135 mph. Lots of cars don't run as good as they dyno because shift points are not right, other stuff not right in the tune... __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

04-15-2016, 02:37 PM	#26
BenningJ Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa Posts: 1,581 View My Garage	For reference only, my full bolt-on + cam only 2013 M6 trapped 116.48mph and I was not getting any traction. I haven't had it on a dyno yet to see my numbers but I would guess I'm only around 475rwhp. __________________ 2013 Camaro 1SS/RS - Ashen Gray Metallic \| LS3 \| CAI Inductions, Inc Intake \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| Dynatech 1.875" Long Tube Headers \| Apex Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam \| BTR 7.400" Push Rods \|LS2 Dampener \| Melling 10296 Oil Pump \| IWIS Chain \| BTR .660" Dual Valve Springs \| BTR Trunion Upgrade Kit \| Lethal Racing Tuned \| Anvil Notch Spoiler \| BMR Split Drop Springs \| Eaton TrueTrac \| GM 3.91 Gears \| LPW Diff Cover \| Rohana RF2 275/40 20x10F 315/35 20x11R \| BMR Polyurethane Motor Mounts

04-16-2016, 11:17 AM	#28
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	That's a lot of power for ZL1 pump. I trapped 98mph in the 1/8 on 22s when I was 680rwhp. I ran 80lb injectors and ctsv pumps. Ran out of fuel any more than that. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

04-04-2016, 04:05 PM	#24
fabianl99 Drives: camaro ss 2012 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: puerto rico Posts: 24	I GOING TO CHECK MY TQ TABLES

04-15-2016, 01:06 PM	#25
700HorsepowerDaily Drives: 2010 procharged Camaro SS, 1979 Z28 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Warner Robins GA Posts: 12	Well I have a zl1 fuel pump and I'm thinking maybe it's not enough for the car? The car is falling on its face in 4th gear and I don't know why.