Cross Shop with s5?

Texas 6Gen · 10-27-2016, 10:34 PM

I am looking at maybe purchasing a new car soon and have been leaning towards a Camaro for awhile now. However, I've recently started looking at something like a 2013 Audi s5. I know that this is a bit of an odd comparison, but I was interested if any of you had any insight/opinion on this topic.

SSSHYBOY · 10-27-2016, 10:42 PM

Have you driven both? If not; do so and let us know what YOU think.

Co2SS · 10-27-2016, 11:39 PM

Get well acquainted with a good Audi mechanic who cuts you good deals. Maintenance queen them Audis are. And nowhere near the BIG brass balls of an SS, 1LE, or ZL1, with a full factory warranty backed even on-track. Just my humble opinion.

thescout6 · 10-27-2016, 11:53 PM

I cross shopped with the S5 and the M4. Test drove all three extensively. Chose the Camaro.

And I am someone who has never bought American (except for a pickup to tow my old track car).

You will not be disappointed. When you test drive them you will see. The Audi and BMW interiors are nice, the Camaro to me is like 80% of the refinement to those, but the driving experience is completely different.

They are turbo charged engines. The Camaro is just a brutal V8 monster that can turn unbelievably well with MRC. Honestly, after I drove the Camaro the other two just felt gutless, which is crazy given that performance wise they are within a couple tenths of a second to each other.

I will say though that the S5 is a pretty sweet looking ride, however, the problem for me is that it's hard to tell the difference between one and an A5 and well, like beamers, EVERYONE in LA has an S5 and an M4 and they are all the stereotypical douchebag.

If you are looking for a luxurious car that isn't too loud and brutal but can get on it when need it then go with the S5. If you want a nice refined car that can be a monster but then a comfy highway car, get the Camaro. It honestly comes down to your preference. This isn't your dads Camaro. These cars are serious contenders, and from a lifelong BMW guys (with an EvoX in between) do yourself a favor and go with a fully loaded 2SS and save yourself some money.

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c4racer · 10-28-2016, 12:17 AM

I would get the Camaro hands down.

I owned a S4 Avant - V8 / Manual. Great car. Loved it. But it's not in the same league as the SS. I would compare it more with a vette or RS4 or M3/4.

I have owned a bunch of vettes and bmws plus that one Audi - oh and interestingly enough also had an evoX, which I hated. Plus a ctsv.

Even after 8 BMWs I am completely impressed with the SS in all areas - it's the complete package and honestly competes well with the German stuff.
Also my DD is an E39 M5.

Given all that - Camaro hands down no contest.

WhyUMad1LE · 10-28-2016, 01:21 AM

I prefer the S5 interior/exterior but the Camaro for everything else. The driving experience (especially with the manual) is very hard to match IMO.

Number 3 · 10-28-2016, 06:06 AM

Audi makes a wonderful car. Fit, finish and materials are the industry standard for luxury cars so you are paying that. Compared t o the Camaro, you are also getting a 4 year warranty so know your mechanic for deals isn't an immediate need.

The 2016 S4 is SC V6 that makes a lot of torque. I believe in 2017, they went with a turbo that makes a bit more HP and torque. You'll find it much better than a Camaro V6 in many regards, but IMO, not worth the 20 to 25 grand more you'll pay.

But as c4racer points out, the S5 isn't an SS competitor. It would be a 100 hp down on an SS. The real competitor would be the RS5 which is upwards of $70,000.

I owned an S4 before my SS (sedan) and it was the nicest car I've ever owned. But it has no where near the character of an LS3 powered SS. And the little time I've spent with a Gen6, you will likely find that same comparison to hold true.

I miss my Audi at times. But my right foot can generally fix that pretty quick.

c4racer · 10-28-2016, 05:11 PM

If I had to choose between selling my M5 and the SS vert the Camaro would lose.
If I had to just have one car it would be the M5 hands down. But that said I would never pick an S4 or even M3 over the Camaro SS as a sports coupe. I would have before I owned the SS. But the 6th gen is a great car - perfectly blends a vette with an M3.

The one area the S5 wins is the seats. Those recaros in Napa are worlds better than the Chevy seats. But just about everything else in the interior is pretty comparable - especially the steering wheel and shifter - the things you touch.

SD1 · 10-28-2016, 05:38 PM

I have had numerous Audi's including a couple of S4's, they drive beautifully but I have had major mechanicals, bad trans (2), broken timing chain guide that required engine pull. I wont be buying anymore audis. I know these things happen, but they are unbelievably expensive. In fact, I was able to repair a trans on a 911 (bought it that way) cheaper than I could on the S4. Unless you are in love with it, keep looking.

SD1 · 10-28-2016, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c4racer

If I had to choose between selling my M5 and the SS vert the Camaro would lose.
If I had to just have one car it would be the M5 hands down. But that said I would never pick an S4 or even M3 over the Camaro SS as a sports coupe. I would have before I owned the SS. But the 6th gen is a great car - perfectly blends a vette with an M3.

The one area the S5 wins is the seats. Those recaros in Napa are worlds better than the Chevy seats. But just about everything else in the interior is pretty comparable - especially the steering wheel and shifter - the things you touch.

Yup

Texas 6Gen · 10-29-2016, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1

I have had numerous Audi's including a couple of S4's, they drive beautifully but I have had major mechanicals, bad trans (2), broken timing chain guide that required engine pull. I wont be buying anymore audis. I know these things happen, but they are unbelievably expensive. In fact, I was able to repair a trans on a 911 (bought it that way) cheaper than I could on the S4. Unless you are in love with it, keep looking.

Thanks for the feedback. Reliability definitely will play a major role on my decision.

bybcous · 10-29-2016, 08:03 PM

If yiu are shopping for a s5 price wise, I would cut the SS out the picture and look at the zl1

DocZenith · 11-29-2016, 06:48 AM

Could anyone tell me something about the difference in road noise and engine noise in the Camaro SS compared to the Audi S5?

c4racer · 11-29-2016, 10:18 AM

I have a vert. It's louder than my B6 S4. But not by much. I would guess the hardtop version is going to be close to an S5. Very well isolated car - far better than any GM car I've owned even a CTSV.

10-27-2016, 10:34 PM	#1
Texas 6Gen Drives: Future 6th Gen Owner Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 46	Cross Shop with s5? I am looking at maybe purchasing a new car soon and have been leaning towards a Camaro for awhile now. However, I've recently started looking at something like a 2013 Audi s5. I know that this is a bit of an odd comparison, but I was interested if any of you had any insight/opinion on this topic.

10-27-2016, 10:42 PM	#2
SSSHYBOY Drives: 2SS convertible, black,black Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Glendale, Ca Posts: 450	Have you driven both? If not; do so and let us know what YOU think. __________________ A little known fact. Women with extra pounds, tend to live longer than men who mention it.

10-27-2016, 11:53 PM	#4
thescout6 Drives: 16 2SS Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Posts: 208	Cross Shop with s5? I cross shopped with the S5 and the M4. Test drove all three extensively. Chose the Camaro. And I am someone who has never bought American (except for a pickup to tow my old track car). You will not be disappointed. When you test drive them you will see. The Audi and BMW interiors are nice, the Camaro to me is like 80% of the refinement to those, but the driving experience is completely different. They are turbo charged engines. The Camaro is just a brutal V8 monster that can turn unbelievably well with MRC. Honestly, after I drove the Camaro the other two just felt gutless, which is crazy given that performance wise they are within a couple tenths of a second to each other. I will say though that the S5 is a pretty sweet looking ride, however, the problem for me is that it's hard to tell the difference between one and an A5 and well, like beamers, EVERYONE in LA has an S5 and an M4 and they are all the stereotypical douchebag. If you are looking for a luxurious car that isn't too loud and brutal but can get on it when need it then go with the S5. If you want a nice refined car that can be a monster but then a comfy highway car, get the Camaro. It honestly comes down to your preference. This isn't your dads Camaro. These cars are serious contenders, and from a lifelong BMW guys (with an EvoX in between) do yourself a favor and go with a fully loaded 2SS and save yourself some money. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-28-2016, 06:06 AM	#7
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,172 View My Garage	Audi makes a wonderful car. Fit, finish and materials are the industry standard for luxury cars so you are paying that. Compared t o the Camaro, you are also getting a 4 year warranty so know your mechanic for deals isn't an immediate need. The 2016 S4 is SC V6 that makes a lot of torque. I believe in 2017, they went with a turbo that makes a bit more HP and torque. You'll find it much better than a Camaro V6 in many regards, but IMO, not worth the 20 to 25 grand more you'll pay. But as c4racer points out, the S5 isn't an SS competitor. It would be a 100 hp down on an SS. The real competitor would be the RS5 which is upwards of $70,000. I owned an S4 before my SS (sedan) and it was the nicest car I've ever owned. But it has no where near the character of an LS3 powered SS. And the little time I've spent with a Gen6, you will likely find that same comparison to hold true. I miss my Audi at times. But my right foot can generally fix that pretty quick. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

10-29-2016, 08:03 PM	#12
bybcous Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: hampton roads Posts: 2,763	If yiu are shopping for a s5 price wise, I would cut the SS out the picture and look at the zl1 __________________ 1ss/Auto-Hyper Blue acs carbon flash spoiler, bmr springs, gm clear tails. Texas speed cam, 223/227 .635/.635 116 LSA, Kooks Long Tube Headers with green cats, MSD Atomic Air Force Intake, CAI Cold Air Intake, QTP cutouts. 503 hp Best so far 11.5 at 123 with a 1.83 60ft. BMR lower and upper trailing arms and upper control arms,E85 DELIVERED 12/29/15 http://youtube.com/bybcous " no talking only racing on my youtube"

10-27-2016, 11:39 PM	#3
Co2SS Drives: 2022 Satin Steel ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Metro Denver Posts: 331	Get well acquainted with a good Audi mechanic who cuts you good deals. Maintenance queen them Audis are. And nowhere near the BIG brass balls of an SS, 1LE, or ZL1, with a full factory warranty backed even on-track. Just my humble opinion.

10-28-2016, 12:17 AM	#5
c4racer Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,108	I would get the Camaro hands down. I owned a S4 Avant - V8 / Manual. Great car. Loved it. But it's not in the same league as the SS. I would compare it more with a vette or RS4 or M3/4. I have owned a bunch of vettes and bmws plus that one Audi - oh and interestingly enough also had an evoX, which I hated. Plus a ctsv. Even after 8 BMWs I am completely impressed with the SS in all areas - it's the complete package and honestly competes well with the German stuff. Also my DD is an E39 M5. Given all that - Camaro hands down no contest.

10-28-2016, 01:21 AM	#6
WhyUMad1LE Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 1,920	I prefer the S5 interior/exterior but the Camaro for everything else. The driving experience (especially with the manual) is very hard to match IMO.

10-28-2016, 05:11 PM	#8
c4racer Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,108	If I had to choose between selling my M5 and the SS vert the Camaro would lose. If I had to just have one car it would be the M5 hands down. But that said I would never pick an S4 or even M3 over the Camaro SS as a sports coupe. I would have before I owned the SS. But the 6th gen is a great car - perfectly blends a vette with an M3. The one area the S5 wins is the seats. Those recaros in Napa are worlds better than the Chevy seats. But just about everything else in the interior is pretty comparable - especially the steering wheel and shifter - the things you touch.

10-28-2016, 05:38 PM	#9
SD1 Drives: 17' GTI DSG SE Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Face of the Sun Posts: 83	I have had numerous Audi's including a couple of S4's, they drive beautifully but I have had major mechanicals, bad trans (2), broken timing chain guide that required engine pull. I wont be buying anymore audis. I know these things happen, but they are unbelievably expensive. In fact, I was able to repair a trans on a 911 (bought it that way) cheaper than I could on the S4. Unless you are in love with it, keep looking.

11-29-2016, 06:48 AM	#13
DocZenith Drives: Mazdaspeed6 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Sweden Posts: 1	Could anyone tell me something about the difference in road noise and engine noise in the Camaro SS compared to the Audi S5?

11-29-2016, 10:18 AM	#14
c4racer Drives: 2016 SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,108	I have a vert. It's louder than my B6 S4. But not by much. I would guess the hardtop version is going to be close to an S5. Very well isolated car - far better than any GM car I've owned even a CTSV.

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