[RagingHawk]

Originally Posted by saxman

If there is one thing that drove me nuts when I test drove a 6th gen, it was the hard, cheap feeling dash. Hard plastics didn't use to bother me, but when the competition is not doing it AND charging less money, there is no excuse for one of the biggest visible pieces right in front of your face to be built like a Playschool Toy.

I know people say soft dashes crack (not if made right) or you are paying for performance and can't have a refined interior and performance for under $50,000. I say quit making excuses for the automakers. Other cars do it, so Chevy can pull it off too.

You must be confused, the plastics in the Mustang are most certainly cheaper, especially the door panels.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by Zeke.Malvo

Both engines look like shit with those covers on there, but the Mustang has managed to improve on what was an already sexy design.

You are one of very few that thinks the 2018 is an improvement. It was pretty lazy and definitely a step backwards.

[IOMike]

Rear needs a reboot. They should go early 70s rear

[camaro5]

Good speculation: Including - More Power! RRR

Even though the overall shape of the car will be the same, the Camaro will still get some necessary changes on the design to its front and rear fascia.

Meanwhile, the biggest change will be mechanical. According to some reports, the entire Camaro lineup is expected to adopt Chevy's optional new 10-speed automatic,

a similar transmission that is already available on the ZL1. A few features are also added to the cabin, and even more, technology will be added as well that is borrowed from its Cadillac ATS siblings.

Furthermore, the SS and ZL1 could have minor power bumps. What's important is that speculations suggest that the automaker will bring back the iconic Z/28 moniker, which hasn't been on the automotive market since the year 2015.


More:

http://www.autoworldnews.com/article...camoflauge.htm

[stella16]

nothing is worse than the rear of the new Mustangs. If I were to ever buy one, I'd cut the tail section....put some metal in and make the tail light area more vertical....and repaint

just sayin, they ruined an awesome front end, with a crappy tail area

[JCunningham]

definitely cowl hood. blacked out tail lights and 3rd brake light. get rid of the cradle bushings. there not needed. just sold mount the cradle. put the microphone in the center headliner console. The a pillar sucks. I have to lean forward for it to recognize what im saying to make a call. calls are alright though. add a good size shift light.

[6th Gen SS]

Originally Posted by stella16

nothing is worse than the rear of the new Mustangs. If I were to ever buy one, I'd cut the tail section....put some metal in and make the tail light area more vertical....and repaint

just sayin, they ruined an awesome front end, with a crappy tail area

I like this.

[maraging]

Originally Posted by camaro5

Good speculation: Including - More Power! RRR

Dumbest article ever. Slim mechanical changes, oh except a power bump and new transmission. Which 7 liter are they putting in this new z/28??

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by IOMike

Rear needs a reboot. They should go early 70s rear

Sorry but I have to vote no.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by camaro5

Good speculation: Including - More Power! RRR

Based on what?

When's the last time GM increased the output of an engine during a refresh?

The LS1 and LS6?

The LSA doesn't count. Its output was increased during development of the ZL1, but it stayed at 580, even though the 5.8 crushed it.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Based on what?

When's the last time GM increased the output of an engine during a refresh?

The LS1 and LS6?

The LSA doesn't count. Its output was increased during development of the ZL1, but it stayed at 580, even though the 5.8 crushed it.

Why I agree normally, the Vette is what will decide it. If the GT gets a bump over 460hp, I don't think it will sit well with GM. Correct me if I'm wrong but in the last 3 gens the Mustang has never eclipsed the base Vette in power. That could be all the difference in this gen. But I agree that's a long shot at best.

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[thefirstcause]

Originally Posted by Zeke.Malvo

Both engines look like shit with those covers on there, but the Mustang has managed to improve on what was an already sexy design.

What the? Hell no! I adore the 2015 Mustang. I like it more than most of the previous gens. They completely hit it out of the park with the design. They didn't need to touch the headlights... it was one of the key pieces of perfection on that car... and they ruined it. They didn't just adjust the lights, the murdered them. All they needed to do was make the LED gills a little more aggressive like in the new headlight, maybe give the projector a different shape... change up the fascia and boom they could have had a great refresh. Instead they completely destroyed the car. I would never own that car... even with the exciting A10 transmission ... uugggg shiver... gross... couldn't do it.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Based on what?

When's the last time GM increased the output of an engine during a refresh?

The LS1 and LS6?

The LSA doesn't count. Its output was increased during development of the ZL1, but it stayed at 580, even though the 5.8 crushed it.

So you believe they're running the test mules around to test new fascias?

80% chance of more power.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by camaro5

So you believe they're running the test mules around to test new fascias?

80% chance of more power.

Yes, yes they absolutely would be driving cars around for the new fascia. Simply impacts to cooling alone would have them do that.

There will likely be a bunch of changes that cause the need for prototypes to be built and tested.

Does not mean there won't be an engine or engine upgrade in power. GM has rarely done that. Maybe a 5 or 10 hp gain, but there were no bumps that I recall for the LS3 in the Corvette or Camaro.

Only time will tell.