CANCEL WARRANTY???

DTRMNED88 · 01-28-2017, 08:05 PM

Does anyone know of anywhere u can have your SS tuned without losing warranty? Mine is hiding a SHITLOAD of power and I must have it. Damn, I'm paying for it....
A Chevrolet dealer maybe???

LibertyHill · 01-28-2017, 08:10 PM

You cannot. The new ECUs count flashes and if GM looks and sees one they have no record of it's bye-bye warranty.

oldman · 01-28-2017, 09:11 PM

It has been said that the trinity diablo leaves no trace.

RacerX661 · 01-28-2017, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

It has been said that the trinity diablo leaves no trace.

anyone else know if this is true??

Razzaa · 01-29-2017, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RacerX661

anyone else know if this is true??

This is my comment on another thread in the bolt ons forum.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476067

Diablosport claims their method does not leave a trace as long as the stock tune is flashed back to the ECM before going to the dealer. It isn't detected by the flash counter either. Diablosport has made this claim for a long time now. The flash counter records the last 10 calibration codes flashed into the computer. But the Diablo software does not change any of the calibration codes in the cvn checksum so the count doesn't change. They also claim you can leave their tune on the car and a tech wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The tech would have to send it to an engineer to spot it was a custom tune using DS flasher.

I have yet to find any evidence of someone having their warranty voided due to a DS flasher being discovered. Do some research, if you find anything that proves otherwise please let me know.

TatsuSensei · 01-30-2017, 07:44 AM

Trifecta also claims it does not affect the flash counter.

Nor Cal ZL1 · 02-01-2017, 09:38 AM

This was stated about the 5th gen as well. The fact is if your going to Mod then do it. Tuning the car ecm only for a little bit of power is just not worth it. Gm finds any way possibe to wiggle out of warranty, and I have seen a powertrain void for a catch can install. Thats a complete powertrain void.

If your going to just tune the ecm I would need some very concrete proof that they are not full of it. They need to show proof of this, not just say it. Gm is not stupid with this. A lot of people blow things up with poor tunes.

SomeGeoffGuy · 02-01-2017, 10:06 AM

You have to pay to play.

-Geoff

SS 1LE · 02-01-2017, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razzaa

This is my comment on another thread in the bolt ons forum.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476067

Diablosport claims their method does not leave a trace as long as the stock tune is flashed back to the ECM before going to the dealer. It isn't detected by the flash counter either. Diablosport has made this claim for a long time now. The flash counter records the last 10 calibration codes flashed into the computer. But the Diablo software does not change any of the calibration codes in the cvn checksum so the count doesn't change. They also claim you can leave their tune on the car and a tech wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The tech would have to send it to an engineer to spot it was a custom tune using DS flasher.

I have yet to find any evidence of someone having their warranty voided due to a DS flasher being discovered. Do some research, if you find anything that proves otherwise please let me know.

Not sure I believe their claims though...if so why wouldn't HPT have this in their software too? Heck, why wouldn't every tuning device then?

Nor Cal ZL1 · 02-01-2017, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Not sure I believe their claims though...if so why wouldn't HPT have this in their software too? Heck, why wouldn't every tuning device then?

Exactly. This is a great point.

DTRMNED88 · 11-23-2017, 05:26 PM

Thanks for the info guys. Big help. Now.....how the hell can you remove the back guard behind the center a/c cents?

KingLT1 · 11-23-2017, 07:37 PM

I have yet to hear of anybody having their warranty voided from the flash counter being tripped. Fwiw There are some dealerships honoring warranty with the GMPP Heads/Cam package...others are supposedly voiding it with a catch can install. So who knows..best advice is call all your local dealerships and feel them out.

qcman · 11-26-2017, 12:37 PM

Where this gets sticky is if there is say an engine failure or something serious. Thats when GM will ask to see the flash counter. I don't believe the Diablo BS for a second. I tuned my L99 2.5 years ago with a Custom Tune with a SCTX4 and have no regrets as the car is stout now. But I fully understood the risks & put my big boy pants on knowing that if the motor cacked I would likely be it for tag. So tuning can really do wonders for even a stock car but it comes with risks like any other mod does and its buyer beware.

camaro5 · 11-26-2017, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro5

You reflash the factory tune before service.

All parameters are then factory correct.

If they say the flash counter is up a couple, tell them you just plugged a scanner in to check for codes. Or a obd gps, Progressive Snapshot, or whatever.

Besides all that, without going into it too far, GM has to prove any mod caused a failure when you take GM to BBB arbitration. They don't.

j

01-28-2017, 08:05 PM	#1
DTRMNED88 DTRMNED88 Drives: 2016 camaro ss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 3 View My Garage	CANCEL WARRANTY??? Does anyone know of anywhere u can have your SS tuned without losing warranty? Mine is hiding a SHITLOAD of power and I must have it. Damn, I'm paying for it.... A Chevrolet dealer maybe???

01-28-2017, 08:10 PM	#2
LibertyHill Drives: 16 2SS 6MT NPP MRC / 15 K1300S Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NW of Austin Posts: 1,034	You cannot. The new ECUs count flashes and if GM looks and sees one they have no record of it's bye-bye warranty. __________________ Rohana RFX-5 10/11, M/T 275/305, Eibachs, Hellwigs, Hurst SS, DMS LT4 SC 596HP/589TQ, DMS Low-side, Kooks 2LTs, MBRP Race, Rotofab, MMS CC

01-28-2017, 09:11 PM	#3
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	It has been said that the trinity diablo leaves no trace. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

02-01-2017, 10:06 AM	#8
SomeGeoffGuy Drives: 2023 2SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,054	You have to pay to play. -Geoff __________________ '12 2SS RS Convertible - Traded in. '16 2SS Convertible - White on white, mag-ride, NPP, nav. Sold! '23 2SS Convertible -Same as above except orange.

11-23-2017, 05:26 PM	#11
DTRMNED88 DTRMNED88 Drives: 2016 camaro ss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 3 View My Garage	Thanks for the info guys. Big help. Now.....how the hell can you remove the back guard behind the center a/c cents? __________________ *Jason'DTRMNED'Jones*

01-30-2017, 07:44 AM	#6
TatsuSensei Drives: 2016 RS Hyper Blue Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 47	Trifecta also claims it does not affect the flash counter.

02-01-2017, 09:38 AM	#7
Nor Cal ZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,825	This was stated about the 5th gen as well. The fact is if your going to Mod then do it. Tuning the car ecm only for a little bit of power is just not worth it. Gm finds any way possibe to wiggle out of warranty, and I have seen a powertrain void for a catch can install. Thats a complete powertrain void. If your going to just tune the ecm I would need some very concrete proof that they are not full of it. They need to show proof of this, not just say it. Gm is not stupid with this. A lot of people blow things up with poor tunes.

11-23-2017, 07:37 PM	#12
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,787	I have yet to hear of anybody having their warranty voided from the flash counter being tripped. Fwiw There are some dealerships honoring warranty with the GMPP Heads/Cam package...others are supposedly voiding it with a catch can install. So who knows..best advice is call all your local dealerships and feel them out. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

11-26-2017, 12:37 PM	#13
qcman Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RDP Tuned L99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada eh? Posts: 1,890	Where this gets sticky is if there is say an engine failure or something serious. Thats when GM will ask to see the flash counter. I don't believe the Diablo BS for a second. I tuned my L99 2.5 years ago with a Custom Tune with a SCTX4 and have no regrets as the car is stout now. But I fully understood the risks & put my big boy pants on knowing that if the motor cacked I would likely be it for tag. So tuning can really do wonders for even a stock car but it comes with risks like any other mod does and its buyer beware.

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