SS M6 shifter upgrade hurst or gm?

Baddawg53 · 10-18-2018, 09:57 PM

I’ve read a lot of threads discussing the quality of the stock shifter. I really don’t have an issue with it, but my car is my hobby and I like working on it.

I’ve pretty much decided my next mod will be a short throw shifter, I am looking for feedback from anyone who has changed their SS to a hurst or GM short throw. I want to retain the factory appearance, so both these options will work for me. If you’ve upgraded it, what do you think about the performance?

Dubchitts · 10-18-2018, 10:15 PM

I've felt the 1le shifter.... Hands down, I would go Hurst again and again

Baddawg53 · 10-18-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubchitts

I've felt the 1le shifter.... Hands down, I would go Hurst again and again

Thanks... Exactly the type of advice I was looking for ...

Dubchitts · 10-18-2018, 10:42 PM

There's a few threads that have a few opinions on the subject. Everyone who has the Hurst loves it from what I've seen. Very Short throw, feels great etc. If you're trying to fix the 2nd gear notchiness, that's solved with a fluid change.

Gm throw reduction 6%
Hurst throw reduction 40

Baddawg53 · 10-18-2018, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubchitts

There's a few threads that have a few opinions on the subject. Everyone who has the Hurst loves it from what I've seen. Very Short throw, feels great etc. If you're trying to fix the 2nd gear notchiness, that's solved with a fluid change.

Gm throw reduction 6%
Hurst throw reduction 4

I tried the fluid change, and I saw no difference in the notchy shift to 2nd. I figured out if I move the shifter to neutral and come back to 2nd it is smooth, so that’s generally what I do when the tranny is cold. Just takes longer to shift.

I think installing the shifter will be a decent weekend project, it seems fairly involved for a shifter. I have no real reason for doing it other than I just want to. Just want to make sure I put the right one in the first time.

Dubchitts · 10-18-2018, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baddawg53

I tried the fluid change, and I saw no difference in the notchy shift to 2nd. I figured out if I move the shifter to neutral and come back to 2nd it is smooth, so that’s generally what I do when the tranny is cold. Just takes longer to shift.

I think installing the shifter will be a decent weekend project, it seems fairly involved for a shifter. I have no real reason for doing it other than I just want to. Just want to make sure I put the right one in the first time.

What fluid did you put in

Baddawg53 · 10-18-2018, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubchitts

What fluid did you put in

I wanna say it was red line?? Been a while since I did it, like a year. Synthetic, got rave reviews here on this forum. So that’s why I went that route.

retmil · 10-19-2018, 03:33 PM

Do not mean to hack the thread but I recently replaced the trans fluid in my 17SS with Royal Purple and the issue with the 2nd gear notchiness has not improved.

Baddawg53 · 10-19-2018, 03:46 PM

You're good man, conversation goes where it goes ...

Like I said, my only way around it is to bring the shifter into the middle, between 3 & 4, then over to 2nd. Then it falls right in.

vtirocz · 10-21-2018, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubchitts

There's a few threads that have a few opinions on the subject. Everyone who has the Hurst loves it from what I've seen. Very Short throw, feels great etc. If you're trying to fix the 2nd gear notchiness, that's solved with a fluid change.

Gm throw reduction 6%
Hurst throw reduction 4

On the SS models, GM quotes a 8.75% reduction in throw with the 1LE shifter, while Hurst advertises a 40% reduction in throw. The Hurst / stock knob setup sits a little higher (than their white knob setup) and I measured the throw reduction to be 34.4% shorter than stock.

OP, my feedback on the Hurst shifter / stock knob setup is here: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=521320

asthmamax11 · 10-30-2018, 04:30 PM

I recommend the Hurst. I've had 5 different short shifter between my C5/Trans Am and this Camaro. This Hurst feels the most like OEM except shift throws are significantly reduced. I have the pistil grip which i feel helps as well.

RDBURNR · 10-31-2018, 09:11 AM

I recently had the OEM knob Hurst short throw shifter installed, a very notable decrease in travel, a bit notchy though and I wish it was a bit smoother.

Baddawg53 · 11-01-2018, 09:22 PM

I installed my hurst with factory knob on Sunday. The install sucked but I really like everything about the shifter and the performance, the shifts are quick and precise. It’s definitely up there with the best mods I’ve done on my car.

blk 2013 · 11-19-2018, 04:19 PM

yes

10-18-2018, 09:57 PM	#1
Baddawg53 Drives: 17 hyper blue 2SS M6 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NorCal Posts: 594	SS M6 shifter upgrade hurst or gm? I’ve read a lot of threads discussing the quality of the stock shifter. I really don’t have an issue with it, but my car is my hobby and I like working on it. I’ve pretty much decided my next mod will be a short throw shifter, I am looking for feedback from anyone who has changed their SS to a hurst or GM short throw. I want to retain the factory appearance, so both these options will work for me. If you’ve upgraded it, what do you think about the performance?

10-18-2018, 10:15 PM	#2
Dubchitts Drives: '17 Red hot 2ss, 16 Focus RS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 845 View My Garage	I've felt the 1le shifter.... Hands down, I would go Hurst again and again __________________ "Spitfire" 427ci 2017 Red Hot 2SS// 6 Piston Brembos//Adrenaline Red Interior, Knee Pads//M6//MRC Afe Air Filter//BMR MM010 Motor Mounts, Safety Loop//Custom OTR Intake//Flex Fuel Kit//Gforce 3.5" Aluminum Driveshaft//GM 95mm TB//Katech Oil Pump, Piston Squirters//Kooks 1-7/8 LT//LT4 Fueling//Mighty Mouse Wild//Monster Clutch LT1-S Triple Disc//MSD 2-Step//Pray Performance Custom Spec Cam, Ported Holley Hi-Ram//Sikky 12" Shifter w OEM Knob Mod//Tick Level 1 Tr6060//Labor by Me//Tune By Pray Performance

10-18-2018, 10:42 PM	#4
Dubchitts Drives: '17 Red hot 2ss, 16 Focus RS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 845 View My Garage	There's a few threads that have a few opinions on the subject. Everyone who has the Hurst loves it from what I've seen. Very Short throw, feels great etc. If you're trying to fix the 2nd gear notchiness, that's solved with a fluid change. Gm throw reduction 6% Hurst throw reduction 40 __________________ "Spitfire" 427ci 2017 Red Hot 2SS// 6 Piston Brembos//Adrenaline Red Interior, Knee Pads//M6//MRC Afe Air Filter//BMR MM010 Motor Mounts, Safety Loop//Custom OTR Intake//Flex Fuel Kit//Gforce 3.5" Aluminum Driveshaft//GM 95mm TB//Katech Oil Pump, Piston Squirters//Kooks 1-7/8 LT//LT4 Fueling//Mighty Mouse Wild//Monster Clutch LT1-S Triple Disc//MSD 2-Step//Pray Performance Custom Spec Cam, Ported Holley Hi-Ram//Sikky 12" Shifter w OEM Knob Mod//Tick Level 1 Tr6060//Labor by Me//Tune By Pray Performance Last edited by Dubchitts; 10-21-2018 at 07:40 PM.

10-30-2018, 04:30 PM	#11
asthmamax11 Drives: 1SS Summit White 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Gainesville GA Posts: 579	I recommend the Hurst. I've had 5 different short shifter between my C5/Trans Am and this Camaro. This Hurst feels the most like OEM except shift throws are significantly reduced. I have the pistil grip which i feel helps as well. __________________ 16 1SS M6 White Magnuson 2.3 Heartbeat Roto Fab Solo Performance Cat deletes and Axleback Hurst short shifter #'s coming soon Riaction coilovers 1LE sway bars BMR mm BMR chassis brace Flow one 19" wheels wrapped in Mickey Thompsons 02 Z28 M6 35th anniversary 80k miles T-tops Leather Bolt ons Joy to drive this classic every day! Daily Driver

10-31-2018, 09:11 AM	#12
RDBURNR Drives: 2016 Camarro 2SS Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 87 View My Garage	I recently had the OEM knob Hurst short throw shifter installed, a very notable decrease in travel, a bit notchy though and I wish it was a bit smoother. __________________ ______________________________________ 2016 2SS P1SC-1 Procharger Stage 2 Intercooler w/ Race BOV ZL1 Fuel Upgrade LT4 Injectors Fuel Voltage Booster AEM Boost and AFR Gauges Dynatech 1 7/8th Headers JRE Tuning

10-19-2018, 03:33 PM	#8
retmil Drives: 2022 Wild Cherry SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germantown, Md Posts: 316	Do not mean to hack the thread but I recently replaced the trans fluid in my 17SS with Royal Purple and the issue with the 2nd gear notchiness has not improved.

10-19-2018, 03:46 PM	#9
Baddawg53 Drives: 17 hyper blue 2SS M6 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NorCal Posts: 594	You're good man, conversation goes where it goes ... Like I said, my only way around it is to bring the shifter into the middle, between 3 & 4, then over to 2nd. Then it falls right in.

11-01-2018, 09:22 PM	#13
Baddawg53 Drives: 17 hyper blue 2SS M6 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NorCal Posts: 594	I installed my hurst with factory knob on Sunday. The install sucked but I really like everything about the shifter and the performance, the shifts are quick and precise. It’s definitely up there with the best mods I’ve done on my car.

11-19-2018, 04:19 PM	#14
blk 2013 Drives: 2017 SS 6sp Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Carrollton texas Posts: 323	yes

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