CAI 2018 V6 - Page 2

Joker75 · 12-10-2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS

Are we positive the GM CAI isn't made for the 18 V6 yet? I really want to give it shot since it doesn't effect the warranty

Best bet would be to contact your dealer. However, I would caution you to make sure that the dealer contacts tech support, or whoever actually knows, to verify whether or not GM ever released the re-flash for the 2018 V6.

I know it was a massive cluster when I bought and installed mine, only to be told by the dealer that GM had not released the Re-flash for the 2018 V6. The dealer finally contacted someone, and was told that they did not have a date for release, nor could they tell the dealer if it would ever be released. I chose to remove the GM CAI and return it, as I saw no use in causing myself headaches with CELs, due to the lack of availability of the Re-flash.

If they could have even given me a time frame for the re-flash to be released, I would most likely have held onto the CAI, as I'd have preferred to keep everything GM, so I wouldn't risk any warranty concerns.

It sounds like plenty of other members are having great luck with other aftermarket CAIs, so there are other options, if you don't feel like waiting for GM to pull their heads out of their butts.

cooper1965 · 12-10-2018, 02:38 PM

I'm waiting for a phone call from GM with more information on this. The complication with the 18 is its different OS.

HCI2000SS · 12-10-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker75

Best bet would be to contact your dealer. However, I would caution you to make sure that the dealer contacts tech support, or whoever actually knows, to verify whether or not GM ever released the re-flash for the 2018 V6.

I know it was a massive cluster when I bought and installed mine, only to be told by the dealer that GM had not released the Re-flash for the 2018 V6. The dealer finally contacted someone, and was told that they did not have a date for release, nor could they tell the dealer if it would ever be released. I chose to remove the GM CAI and return it, as I saw no use in causing myself headaches with CELs, due to the lack of availability of the Re-flash.

If they could have even given me a time frame for the re-flash to be released, I would most likely have held onto the CAI, as I'd have preferred to keep everything GM, so I wouldn't risk any warranty concerns.

It sounds like plenty of other members are having great luck with other aftermarket CAIs, so there are other options, if you don't feel like waiting for GM to pull their heads out of their butts.

Yeah your experience sounds like a real pita. All over a damn CAI of all things lol. I actually talked to my dealer about this the other day. Of course they had no idea about this or any helpful info to give. All they said was that I should call GM directly to find out. They said if the CAI does in fact come with the reflash for my car, that they would need to do the install for my warranty to be 100% in tack. I'm gonna call GM here soon and find out

HCI2000SS · 12-10-2018, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper1965

I'm waiting for a phone call from GM with more information on this. The complication with the 18 is its different OS.

Which department did you contact if I may ask?

cooper1965 · 12-10-2018, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS

Which department did you contact if I may ask?

GM SPAC

cooper1965 · 12-11-2018, 04:45 PM

I will have an update in 48 hours with the next step on this.

HCI2000SS · 12-11-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper1965

I will have an update in 48 hours with the next step on this.

Good deal. I'm gonna wait and see what they say to you first. Definitely keep us posted please

cooper1965 · 12-13-2018, 02:30 PM

So this is from engineering:
The CAI kit for the 2018V6 has not been set up for service at this time, nor is there any indication that it will be anytime in the near future.

HCI2000SS · 12-13-2018, 04:05 PM

Well this sucks. Just another GM failure apparently.

Joker75 · 12-13-2018, 04:08 PM

Booooo. I guess GM decided to follow Roto-fab's lead and give the big old finger to the V6 crowd.

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cellsafemode · 12-13-2018, 05:16 PM

The CAI's just bolt into the stock inputs and outputs. All you're getting is a snazzier looking air box and a filter with hopefully more surface area to make up for the different filter media that tends to clog up faster than paper (freeer flowing).

Most of the benefit can be had by just dropping in a K&N or similar drop-in filter. However the other boxes that have been made for the V6 offer cone filters ...which tend to have more surface area than the drop-in.

The main difference is you end up having to clean the drop-in more often than you would the cone to maintain the same air flow rate. That's it. It's sucking air from the same snorkel and the air bridge is basically the same (since the air box and TB positions are the same as stock and the diameter is kept the same so no tune would be needed).

So dont feel too bad. You're not really missing out on much.

cooper1965 · 12-13-2018, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellsafemode

The CAI's just bolt into the stock inputs and outputs. All you're getting is a snazzier looking air box and a filter with hopefully more surface area to make up for the different filter media that tends to clog up faster than paper (freeer flowing).

Most of the benefit can be had by just dropping in a K&N or similar drop-in filter. However the other boxes that have been made for the V6 offer cone filters ...which tend to have more surface area than the drop-in.

The main difference is you end up having to clean the drop-in more often than you would the cone to maintain the same air flow rate. That's it. It's sucking air from the same snorkel and the air bridge is basically the same (since the air box and TB positions are the same as stock and the diameter is kept the same so no tune would be needed).

So dont feel too bad. You're not really missing out on much.

This^

I have yet to see the I4 or V6 stock air intake's become a power restriction with full bolt-ons.

The GM calibration would have been nice, but a full tune would be better.

Cristios · 12-15-2018, 05:03 PM

Pre: 0-60 5.7, 5.9
Post: 0-60 5.4, 5.4

Source: Dynolicious app

Ran two runs on a rural road outside. Started at exactly the same point and launches at about 2200rpm. Outside temperature was 39 when I ran the 5.7 prior to installation and 45 when I ran the 5.4.

Subjectively there is a deeper growl post tune and I feel like there is notably more pull below 4000rpm.

Dynolicious suggested a gain of 4hp and 19pf.

HCI2000SS · 12-15-2018, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cristios

Pre: 0-60 5.7, 5.9
Post: 0-60 5.4, 5.4

Source: Dynolicious app

Ran two runs on a rural road outside. Started at exactly the same point and launches at about 2200rpm. Outside temperature was 39 when I ran the 5.7 prior to installation and 45 when I ran the 5.4.

Subjectively there is a deeper growl post tune and I feel like there is notably more pull below 4000rpm.

Dynolicious suggested a gain of 4hp and 19pf.

How accurate is the Dynolicious app in general? You ran that app for both the before and after?

12-10-2018, 02:38 PM	#16
cooper1965 Coopers Camaro Drives: 18 Flex Fuel LTG Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: St. Louis/Sullivan/Washington MO Posts: 933	I'm waiting for a phone call from GM with more information on this. The complication with the 18 is its different OS. Attached Images __________________ Flex Fuel tuned by me using HPT-:- ---My Build Thread--- -----My IG PAGe-----

12-11-2018, 04:45 PM	#20
cooper1965 Coopers Camaro Drives: 18 Flex Fuel LTG Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: St. Louis/Sullivan/Washington MO Posts: 933	I will have an update in 48 hours with the next step on this. __________________ Flex Fuel tuned by me using HPT-:- ---My Build Thread--- -----My IG PAGe-----

12-13-2018, 02:30 PM	#22
cooper1965 Coopers Camaro Drives: 18 Flex Fuel LTG Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: St. Louis/Sullivan/Washington MO Posts: 933	So this is from engineering: The CAI kit for the 2018V6 has not been set up for service at this time, nor is there any indication that it will be anytime in the near future. __________________ Flex Fuel tuned by me using HPT-:- ---My Build Thread--- -----My IG PAGe-----

12-15-2018, 05:03 PM	#27
Cristios Drives: 2017 2lt 1le Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Idaho Posts: 1	0-60 pre and post GM Perf CAI (w/ tune) Pre: 0-60 5.7, 5.9 Post: 0-60 5.4, 5.4 Source: Dynolicious app Ran two runs on a rural road outside. Started at exactly the same point and launches at about 2200rpm. Outside temperature was 39 when I ran the 5.7 prior to installation and 45 when I ran the 5.4. Subjectively there is a deeper growl post tune and I feel like there is notably more pull below 4000rpm. Dynolicious suggested a gain of 4hp and 19pf.

12-13-2018, 04:05 PM	#23
HCI2000SS Drives: 2018 Camaro V6/RS Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: MI Posts: 1,596	Well this sucks. Just another GM failure apparently.

12-13-2018, 04:08 PM	#24
Joker75 Drives: 18 LS/1LE V6 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Utah Posts: 164	Booooo. I guess GM decided to follow Roto-fab's lead and give the big old finger to the V6 crowd. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

12-13-2018, 05:16 PM	#25
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,491	The CAI's just bolt into the stock inputs and outputs. All you're getting is a snazzier looking air box and a filter with hopefully more surface area to make up for the different filter media that tends to clog up faster than paper (freeer flowing). Most of the benefit can be had by just dropping in a K&N or similar drop-in filter. However the other boxes that have been made for the V6 offer cone filters ...which tend to have more surface area than the drop-in. The main difference is you end up having to clean the drop-in more often than you would the cone to maintain the same air flow rate. That's it. It's sucking air from the same snorkel and the air bridge is basically the same (since the air box and TB positions are the same as stock and the diameter is kept the same so no tune would be needed). So dont feel too bad. You're not really missing out on much.

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