[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Ace01

The 1LE SS is so damned fast!!! The car is mind-blowing. 455HP is enough for me I might do the ethanol blend mod put that is about it.

I started on the Camaro quest back in 1984 with a Z28 with 165 Hp than the 2016 Camaro RS V6 with 335 HP now the 1LE beast!! 455HP. Long live Camaro!

[Roostie]

Originally Posted by Ace01

The 1LE SS is so damned fast!!! The car is mind-blowing. 455HP is enough for me I might do the ethanol blend mod put that is about it.

I started on the Camaro quest back in 1984 with a Z28 with 165 Hp than the 2016 Camaro RS V6 with 335 HP now the 1LE beast!! 455HP. Long live Camaro!

I was telling a younger co-worker that my 1995 Mustang GT had only 215 hp, and he was in disbelief. He said no, wasn't it more like 300? But from about 1985 to the late 90s, the Mustang GT only had about that much power. When the Gen 4 Camaro debuted with 275, that seemed awesome! In 1983, I think the fastest sports sedan (back when sedans were very popular) was the BMW 533i with a rip-snorting 181 hp!

[rray200]

Originally Posted by Mountain

I am also surprised on the negative comments about the PP2 on-road dynamics comments and the positive comments on the brakes. I thought those two would be reversed.

This portion is probably the most bothersome to me:
"The frustrating thing on this Mustang was that the AdvanceTrac—the stability control—has a little bit of a mind of its own. We were able to turn it off, but half a lap later, it comes back in. It's very interesting. It was actually trying to cover for that entry oversteer that I was feeling. It's like it's learning, then it starts sticking its nose in my business. And the rear's just not hooked up. I just feel like this is another example of a chassis-dynamics guy who likes a little bit of oversteer. I think that keeps it from being perfect."

This car was thoroughly and specifically tested, by Ford engineers and their factory race car drivers, at various tracks. The idea of the car is stated to be a level beyond the PP1 and to give Mustang buyers a much higher level of corning capability and enjoyment. This sounds completely counter-intuitive to that. The car should have had a diff cooler, in the least in my opinion, but this is something else. Come on...

The funny thing is that the 2013/14 GT Track Pack Mustangs all came equipped with engine oil, transmission oil and Diff coolers. Why don't the current PP Mustang GTs have them as standard equipment?

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by rray200

The funny thing is that the 2013/14 GT Track Pack Mustangs all came equipped with engine oil, transmission oil and Diff coolers. Why don't the current PP Mustang GTs have them as standard equipment?

The '13/14 Mustang GT Track Package had trans and diff coolers? That's news to me. Any links to where you got this info?

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

The '13/14 Mustang GT Track Package had trans and diff coolers? That's news to me. Any links to where you got this info?

They only had engine oil coolers according to the brochure

Brembo™ Brake Package includes Brembo 14" vented
front rotors with Brembo 4-piston calipers, unique electronic
stability control suspension tuning, and 19" dark stainlesspainted
aluminum wheels with 255/40R19 summer-only
performance tires (manual transmission only)
GT Track Package includes all content of Brembo Brake
Package plus 3.73:1 gear ratio with TORSEN® helical rear
differential, BOSS® 302 radiator, and engine oil cooler
(manual coupe only)


The SVT Track pack for the GT500 had all the coolers

SVT Track Pack includes external engine oil cooler,
transmission cooler pump, differential cooler and brake
cooling ducts (coupe only; requires 821A)


https://www.ford.com/services/assets...stalCode=43566

[50MileSmile]

Originally Posted by rray200

...engine oil, transmission oil and Diff coolers. Why don't the current PP Mustang GTs have them as standard equipment?

Because Ford has said, very publicly and loudly, that the tinkle cars (oops, PP cars) are not designed for the track.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

Because Ford has said, very publicly and loudly, that the tinkle cars (oops, PP cars) are not designed for the track.

And instead they want you to buy a more expensive gt350 as they still have 2017s on the lots