8 Speed vs 10 Speed - Page 3

SuperSnake1972 · 11-10-2023, 10:44 AM

I have a 2020 2SS with the A10 because I was too smart to settle for the A8 and all it's problems.

ctrlz · 11-10-2023, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Maddtazz

My a8 has no shutter.
I would love any tips.

Please get some shutters for your A8.
They will spruce it up nicely

arpad_m · 11-10-2023, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ctrlz

Please get some shutters for your A8.
They will spruce it up nicely

Amazing tip, do you have a purchase link for us?

RideWithDanger · 11-10-2023, 11:59 AM

I had the A8 and now have the A10. I never had the shudder on the A8 but it had some other weird problems. I would jerk really bad going into second or third after cold starts, and by the end of my time owning it I couldn't do any hard pulls or it would feel like it was about to break. Cruising was fine though.

The A10 is much better IMO but had the A8 not had any issues it wasn't THAT big of a difference for most driving situations.

FarmerFran · 11-10-2023, 12:21 PM

I'm gonna say it

6

CalgaryZL1 · 11-10-2023, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerFran

I'm gonna say it

6

A6 is old news

SS_Don · 11-10-2023, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

A6 is old news

I think he means M6

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CalgaryZL1 · 11-10-2023, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Don

I think he means M6

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Yes I realize that, it’s called sarcasm. I may be Canadian but I’m not stupid.

CHASLT1 · 11-10-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

A6 is old news

Never had a thing go wrong with a A6 in my three C6's.

Gen6cyl · 11-10-2023, 02:39 PM

I would guess the older and wiser folks on this forum have more m6 than younger people , percentage wise.

SnakeEyeSS · 11-10-2023, 06:19 PM

I thought that there was someone on here that found out the A8 was rated for higher power than that A10, so if you are going to mod the engine you may have more leeway.

I don't think it was ever definitive but when the A10 came out we compared mag 0-60 times and it was a wash.

Dynamical · 11-10-2023, 06:59 PM

Sorry I can't compare the two. I stayed away from the A8 just to avoid the possibility of problems. I went with the A10. I love this transmission and I plan on adding more power through it. Such a big difference from where I left off almost a decade ago with the 4L60E.
That being said, the A8 supposedly has a higher torque rating. I have seen guys up at my track running 9s 1/4 with the A8 so it's no slouch. Take this for what it is.

TORQUE CAPACITY LISTINGS FOR LATE MODEL GM OVERDRIVE AUTOMATICS
TRANSMISSION TORQUE CAPACITY
(LB-FT)
4L60E 380
4L65E* 430
4L70E* 495
4L75E* 650
4L80E 440
4L85E* 685
6L80E 650
8L90E 715
10L80E 590
10L90E 685
* These torque ratings are for the aftermarket Chevrolet Performance transmissions. The remaining listings are stock transmission ratings that tend to be more conservative. Note for instance the significant difference in torque capacity between the Chevrolet Performance 4L85 and the production 4L80E. It is likely that the stock 4L80E can handle much more torque than the factory rating of 440 lb-ft.

https://www.holley.com/blog/post/eve...transmissions/

arpad_m · 11-10-2023, 07:07 PM

I've been here since 2017, and this A8 vs A10 theme comes up every other month or so. Very few people had both and expended effort into making both of them perform at their best, yet the prevailing conclusion is "A8 crap, A10 king".

I am not going to belabor this anymore, and it's true that my A10 experience is very, very limited (I don't have a ZL1 myself), I'll just say one thing: with the proper Mobil 1 fluid and a proper A8 tune (thank you, Ted Jannetty) the only real difference is the extra gear between the A8's 4th and 5th that the A10 has, plus a tiny bit faster shifts with the A10, maybe, the rest is mostly perception and regurgitated memes.

Joshinator99 · 11-10-2023, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynamical

I have seen guys up at my track running 9s 1/4 with the A8 so it's no slouch. Take this for what it is.

Impossible. The A8 is crap. I read it on the internet! Has to be true!

Also, I think I know one of those guys running 9’s with a stock, untouched, A8 that has never shuddered or given any problems over nearly 6 years of use.

11-10-2023, 11:59 AM	#32
RideWithDanger Drives: 23 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: GA Posts: 569	I had the A8 and now have the A10. I never had the shudder on the A8 but it had some other weird problems. I would jerk really bad going into second or third after cold starts, and by the end of my time owning it I couldn't do any hard pulls or it would feel like it was about to break. Cruising was fine though. The A10 is much better IMO but had the A8 not had any issues it wasn't THAT big of a difference for most driving situations. __________________ Instagram: RideWithDanger Radiant Red 23' 2SS 1LE 1100: 11/14/22 \| BUILT: 3/16/23 2000: 2/17/23 \| 4200: 5/8/23 3000: 2/27/23 \| 5000/6000: 5/15/23 Black on black 2019 3LT RS Camaro. 1100: 3/7/19 \| 4200: 4/15/19 3100: 3/15/19 \| 4800: 4/23/19 3400: 3/22/19 \| 5000: 4/25/19 Built: 4/8/19 \| Home: 4/26/19

11-10-2023, 12:21 PM	#33
FarmerFran Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert M6 "Sharky" Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 4,032	I'm gonna say it 6 __________________ 2023 Camaro ZL1 Vert TR-6060 Sharkskin "Sharky" Firecracker Red Wrangler Willys, 3.6L eTorque, 850RE 8 speed automatic, 25W Willys package, Technology Group, Convenience Group (aka $600 garage door opener), Cold weather Group, Trailer Tow and HD electric group with AUX switches, 3 piece black freedom top.

11-10-2023, 02:39 PM	#38
Gen6cyl Drives: Chevy Camaro 2021 ,rs, v6, manual Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Georgia Posts: 868	I would guess the older and wiser folks on this forum have more m6 than younger people , percentage wise. __________________ B6 dampers, x pipe, mbrp axel back

11-10-2023, 06:19 PM	#39
SnakeEyeSS Drives: Camaro 2SS & ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 857	I thought that there was someone on here that found out the A8 was rated for higher power than that A10, so if you are going to mod the engine you may have more leeway. I don't think it was ever definitive but when the A10 came out we compared mag 0-60 times and it was a wash. __________________ 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Bright Yellow NPP MRC 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10 Radiant Red

11-10-2023, 06:59 PM	#40
Dynamical Drives: 2022 Camaro LT1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: new england Posts: 373	Sorry I can't compare the two. I stayed away from the A8 just to avoid the possibility of problems. I went with the A10. I love this transmission and I plan on adding more power through it. Such a big difference from where I left off almost a decade ago with the 4L60E. That being said, the A8 supposedly has a higher torque rating. I have seen guys up at my track running 9s 1/4 with the A8 so it's no slouch. Take this for what it is. TORQUE CAPACITY LISTINGS FOR LATE MODEL GM OVERDRIVE AUTOMATICS TRANSMISSION TORQUE CAPACITY (LB-FT) 4L60E 380 4L65E* 430 4L70E* 495 4L75E* 650 4L80E 440 4L85E* 685 6L80E 650 8L90E 715 10L80E 590 10L90E 685 * These torque ratings are for the aftermarket Chevrolet Performance transmissions. The remaining listings are stock transmission ratings that tend to be more conservative. Note for instance the significant difference in torque capacity between the Chevrolet Performance 4L85 and the production 4L80E. It is likely that the stock 4L80E can handle much more torque than the factory rating of 440 lb-ft. https://www.holley.com/blog/post/eve...transmissions/ __________________ 2022 Camaro LT1 A10 - Drag Pack/AxleBack -11.849@118.67MPH/1.798 60' 2001 Camaro SS A4 - HCI/Stall/Bolt-on/Gear/Tune/DR/Diet - 429HP/392TQ - 10.99@123.58MPH/1.584 60' 1998 Camaro Z28 A4 - Bolt-on 1999 Camaro Z28 A4 - Stock *FJB*

11-10-2023, 10:44 AM	#29
SuperSnake1972 Drives: 2020 chevrolet camaro 2SS Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: arizona Posts: 75 View My Garage	I have a 2020 2SS with the A10 because I was too smart to settle for the A8 and all it's problems.

11-10-2023, 07:07 PM	#41
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,616 View My Garage	I've been here since 2017, and this A8 vs A10 theme comes up every other month or so. Very few people had both and expended effort into making both of them perform at their best, yet the prevailing conclusion is "A8 crap, A10 king". I am not going to belabor this anymore, and it's true that my A10 experience is very, very limited (I don't have a ZL1 myself), I'll just say one thing: with the proper Mobil 1 fluid and a proper A8 tune (thank you, Ted Jannetty) the only real difference is the extra gear between the A8's 4th and 5th that the A10 has, plus a tiny bit faster shifts with the A10, maybe, the rest is mostly perception and regurgitated memes. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

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