04-27-2021, 02:42 PM | #15 |
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Mr. RHOSH, what youa re describing on the dyno tune is EXACTLY why there was no real increase over the baseline pull with the bolt-ons.
About the ONLY thing the bolt on would have shown is that you were DOWN on power when you first dyno'd, NOT that you INCREASED power with all the mods before the tune. Basically your stock plugs, coils, air filter, and everything else you replaced were "BAD" and costing you power vs NEW items that your replaced them with. That is the only way you increased power, was because your stock tune was MEANT to make as much as you got after you made all the changes. Basically, goes to show how much is left on the table due to a good old fashioned "tune-up" that anyone can do. Quite frankly, I totally forgot you didn't have a tune after you made the changes, since anyone that makes changes like you did goes and gets a tune to make them work. Yeah, the latest generation of engine controls REALLY change things... No more doing amod and getting an increase... You need to know how the mod changes things and then dial it in appropriately. One thing, I would NOT use a tuner that doesn't know these engine control systems... They are TOTALLY different than any previous systems. If the tuner hasn't spent a lot of time tuning these, GET A NEW TUNER!!! Not saying he can't tune older setups, as I am sure there are a lot that can, but FAR TOO MANY totally screw up these cars and destroy them with thier ignorance of these systems. Do some reading on here and educate yourself. People that thought their tuner was the "cats-ass" now know they were hacks that cost them their motor. |
04-28-2021, 10:24 AM | #16 | |
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05-30-2021, 07:26 PM | #17 | |
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Late to the party but this one is mine:
I'm not sure if the ATS and Camaro ECU function exactly the same however, I got 273whp and 294wtq with just an intake. My jaw hit the floor, I was expecting 230ish and 250wtq at most. No tune or nothing. That being said the t00ner stated(Brian at VT) it was not exactly safe, it was spiking boost and AFRs were lean. But a stock unmodded ECU put down a 50whp gain. Dyno'd in 4th gear. Dyno is not high reading, I had a G37 before this car also in my yt channel made normal G37 numbers on this dyno 305whp 250wtq.
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05-30-2021, 09:57 PM | #18 | |
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Again, it has to do with the programming. Also the stock intake is not a major restriction. No way would you gain that much with just that. It *HAS* to have a tune loaded. |
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06-01-2021, 08:08 AM | #19 | |
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06-01-2021, 08:21 AM | #20 |
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Whenever I see dyno numbers that don't line up I recommend going to the track, because the trap speed never lies
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06-01-2021, 08:53 AM | #21 | |
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Only way to know for sure is to flash a total stock tune from GM to the car with a complete overwrite, which will change the counters and will fully flash the computer. If it wasn't tuned, no blood, no foul. If it was tuned you will at least KNOW what you are running and know it is safe. Far too many jokers messed with these setups and have blown them up because they try tuning them like previous generation setups. They are FAR from that. |
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06-03-2021, 07:46 AM | #22 |
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i thought the burnout never lied..?
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