Does it piss you off - A8 out A10 in.

ScatPack · 12-12-2018, 12:12 PM

It would sure piss me off that I just bought a brand new camaro, and boom the next year they put in the A10 in place of the A8. Anyone else feel like that?? The A8 is a great trans, but A10 is two more. And more is better...lol

KMPrenger · 12-12-2018, 12:29 PM

No, not at all.

It was three years with the A8. I didn't buy a 2016 model 1st year 6th gen Camaro with expectations it wouldn't change or evolve after just a few years even.

Many will say "good riddance" (with much justification) to the A8 transmission, but honestly if the 2019 "fix" that is supposedly coming, really does fix the shudder TC issues these have, the A8 will be pretty great. I think the A8 (shudder issue removed) is fantastic.

lawguy85 · 12-12-2018, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ScatPack

It would sure piss me off that I just bought a brand new camaro, and boom the next year they put in the A10 in place of the A8. Anyone else feel like that?? The A8 is a great trans, but A10 is two more. And more is better...lol

Nope, not at all. Exact same 0-60, likely a similar 1/4, and I don't have to live with the refreshed front end. If I get the shudder, then yeah I'll be pissed, but until then it seems absolutely meaningless for my use case.

70chevelleSS · 12-12-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

No, not at all.

It was three years with the A8. I didn't buy a 2016 model 1st year 6th gen Camaro with expectations it wouldn't change or evolve after just a few years even.

Many will say "good riddance" (with much justification) to the A8 transmission, but honestly if the 2019 "fix" that is supposedly coming, really does fix the shudder TC issues these have, the A8 will be pretty great. I think the A8 (shudder issue removed) is fantastic.

Agreed.The A8, when in good working order, is excellent in my experience. Add a TCM tune in there and it turns into a downright beast.

Silverado57 · 12-12-2018, 01:00 PM

Not at all. An A8 is a step up from a 3 on the tree, 4 on the floor, etc. It's the best transmission I've ever had. I'm delighted.

crosive · 12-12-2018, 02:32 PM

I would only be upset if the A10 was the same as the ones in the zl1's, those things are monsters in more ways than 1.

since the A10 is supposedly a weaker version of an A8 with 2 more gears, I'll pass.

Drags1998 · 12-12-2018, 03:29 PM

My A8 has been VERY GOOD to Me, It works just fine!!! The A10 will at some point show its UGLY side and then We will Be ready for the NEW A12 that will show up in a few YEARS!!!!!!

Prodogs · 12-12-2018, 04:21 PM

No regrets at all - A8 is fine with me.

Norm Peterson · 12-12-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ScatPack

It would sure piss me off that I just bought a brand new camaro, and boom the next year they put in the A10 in place of the A8. Anyone else feel like that?? The A8 is a great trans, but A10 is two more. And more is better...lol

Once you get past some number of forward gears in a transmission, adding still more just pushes you further into the realm of diminishing returns. IOW, don't expect as much improvement going from 8 to 10 that you might have gotten a few years back going from 4 to 6.

In theory, 10 will allow you to stay in a tighter powerband . . . which can end up being so tight in normal street driving that the thing is either shifting all the time as speeds vary only a little, or it learns to skip gears so you'll stop blaming it for not being able to make up its mind.

Going to 10 was likely pushed by mpg pressures; 8 is already more than most people would ever want in a manual transmission. Maybe with the A10's really close "middle ratios", the torque converter never needs to unlock once you've got the car rolling.

But all that said, it's kind of pointless to second-guess the purchase you did make, assuming that you made all your decisions about that purchase with the best and most complete information available to you at the time.

Norm

parish8 · 12-12-2018, 05:20 PM

people are running into the 8's with stock or nearly stock a8's. I am pretty happy about that. I am jealous of the trans brake feature the mustang guys have with their version of the a10.

ChickenPoop · 12-12-2018, 05:34 PM

Yes. Yes I am. The A8 has issues and GM won't friggin fix it. Their magic cure all that those of us with the shudder or other problems have been waiting on is nothing but another damn flush. They have had several years to address this, and this is what we get. Another big F you. I am done. Damn a warranty. Soon as HP Tuners gets more in stock, I am buying another TCM and getting another converter put in. The folks at GM can eat a bag of dicks and choke to death on the last one.

TJay74 · 12-12-2018, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickenPoop

Yes. Yes I am. The A8 has issues and GM won't friggin fix it. Their magic cure all that those of us with the shudder or other problems have been waiting on is nothing but another damn flush. They have had several years to address this, and this is what we get. Another big F you. I am done. Damn a warranty. Soon as HP Tuners gets more in stock, I am buying another TCM and getting another converter put in. The folks at GM can eat a bag of dicks and choke to death on the last one.

Wont do you any good to buy another TCM, even with the new one having your VIN I am pretty sure you will need a visit to the dealership to have the TCM sync'd to the system.

Save the money and just tune your TCM.

bpang1234 · 12-12-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

No, not at all.

It was three years with the A8. I didn't buy a 2016 model 1st year 6th gen Camaro with expectations it wouldn't change or evolve after just a few years even.

Many will say "good riddance" (with much justification) to the A8 transmission, but honestly if the 2019 "fix" that is supposedly coming, really does fix the shudder TC issues these have, the A8 will be pretty great. I think the A8 (shudder issue removed) is fantastic.

I feel the same way...I do not have the shudder issue and track my car just fine. For autocross, I wish there was a way to turn on performance shift mode before you launch but otherwise it is fine if you go to the paddle shifters.

ChickenPoop · 12-12-2018, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TJay74

Wont do you any good to buy another TCM, even with the new one having your VIN I am pretty sure you will need a visit to the dealership to have the TCM sync'd to the system.

Save the money and just tune your TCM.

I will look into this. Thanks.

12-12-2018, 12:12 PM	#1
ScatPack Banned Drives: None at the moment Join Date: May 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 284	Does it piss you off - A8 out A10 in. It would sure piss me off that I just bought a brand new camaro, and boom the next year they put in the A10 in place of the A8. Anyone else feel like that?? The A8 is a great trans, but A10 is two more. And more is better...lol

12-12-2018, 12:29 PM	#2
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	No, not at all. It was three years with the A8. I didn't buy a 2016 model 1st year 6th gen Camaro with expectations it wouldn't change or evolve after just a few years even. Many will say "good riddance" (with much justification) to the A8 transmission, but honestly if the 2019 "fix" that is supposedly coming, really does fix the shudder TC issues these have, the A8 will be pretty great. I think the A8 (shudder issue removed) is fantastic. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

12-12-2018, 01:00 PM	#5
Silverado57 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 522	Not at all. An A8 is a step up from a 3 on the tree, 4 on the floor, etc. It's the best transmission I've ever had. I'm delighted. __________________ Kevin Luceo Non Uro

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parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	people are running into the 8's with stock or nearly stock a8's. I am pretty happy about that. I am jealous of the trans brake feature the mustang guys have with their version of the a10. __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472

12-12-2018, 02:32 PM	#6
crosive Drives: 18 zl1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: central alabama Posts: 935	I would only be upset if the A10 was the same as the ones in the zl1's, those things are monsters in more ways than 1. since the A10 is supposedly a weaker version of an A8 with 2 more gears, I'll pass.

12-12-2018, 03:29 PM	#7
Drags1998 Drives: 15 SilveradoLTZ,162SSVert BlazerRS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Minot,Maine Posts: 644	My A8 has been VERY GOOD to Me, It works just fine!!! The A10 will at some point show its UGLY side and then We will Be ready for the NEW A12 that will show up in a few YEARS!!!!!!

12-12-2018, 04:21 PM	#8
Prodogs Drives: 2017 2ss Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Charlotte Posts: 66	No regrets at all - A8 is fine with me.

12-12-2018, 05:34 PM	#11
ChickenPoop Account Suspended Drives: 2019 Plum Crazy Scat Pack Charger Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: South Ga. Posts: 263	Yes. Yes I am. The A8 has issues and GM won't friggin fix it. Their magic cure all that those of us with the shudder or other problems have been waiting on is nothing but another damn flush. They have had several years to address this, and this is what we get. Another big F you. I am done. Damn a warranty. Soon as HP Tuners gets more in stock, I am buying another TCM and getting another converter put in. The folks at GM can eat a bag of dicks and choke to death on the last one.

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