[KingLT1]

Camaro had a muffler delete...Mustang groupies will use it as a crutch....just saying.

[Zeke.Malvo]

Originally Posted by DiGiam

If you can't trap high at atco in the fall, you aren't making power. 119 is impressive but I trapped 116 bone stock in 85 degree weather in south ga. The cars are quick but I think the Ford boys are getting a little ahead of themselves. Hell they put on a drag pack, ran the gas low, took out the passenger and rear seats and ran 11.8..lol

Drag pack?

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[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by DiGiam

If you can't trap high at atco in the fall, you aren't making power. 119 is impressive but I trapped 116 bone stock in 85 degree weather in south ga. The cars are quick but I think the Ford boys are getting a little ahead of themselves. Hell they put on a drag pack, ran the gas low, took out the passenger and rear seats and ran 11.8..lol

Don’t forget x pipe resonator delete and lowering springs as well.

11.8 is pretty decent considering. My car went 11.68@118 in slightly better DA. Drag pack, cai and ptb. But I’m 260 lbs. Their guy looked about 150

All in all pretty comparable but I don’t see it as quicker than the Camaro yet

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by DiGiam

That made me laugh. I saw on the 6th gen Facebook group that a guy ran his stock camaro vs an 18 mustang gt and got him by a car every race.

The funniest thing is that at their best the GT can match of just edge out the Camaro by like 2 tenths. At the Camaro's best it can destroy the GT by at least half a second. The 4th Gen F-Bodys beat the GTs by bus loads...the introduction of the 5th Gen saw the Camaro destroy the GT by bus loads. Then the GT barely beat the SS. Then the 6th Gen Camaro again destroyed the GT by almost a full second. Now the GT seems to have match us again and it took 3 model years to do it lol!! Poor Mustangers...

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Don’t forget x pipe resonator delete and lowering springs as well.

11.8 is pretty decent considering. My car went 11.68@118 in slightly better DA. Drag pack, cai and ptb. But I’m 260 lbs. Their guy looked about 150

All in all pretty comparable but I don’t see it as quicker than the Camaro yet

He was almost 11.9. 11.88 isn’t 11.8.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Camaro had a muffler delete...Mustang groupies will use it as a crutch....just saying.

Camaro cronies were saying 30psi of tire pressure meant the car wasn't stock when the MY18 GT ran almost 12 flat stock.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

Camaro cronies were saying 30psi of tire pressure meant the car wasn't stock when the MY18 GT ran almost 12 flat stock.

You exaggerate more than any woman I've ever dated.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

Camaro cronies were saying 30psi of tire pressure meant the car wasn't stock when the MY18 GT ran almost 12 flat stock.

Run the OE tires flat with pink valve stems if you think it will help. Hanging on that one point tells me the Mustangers' are already formulating excuses. The larger point was that there will be same day comparisons with all variables equal.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Run the OE tires flat with pink valve stems if you think it will help. Hanging on that one point tells me the Mustangers' are already formulating excuses. The larger point was that there will be same day comparisons with all variables equal.

I'm not sure how me commenting on how "some" camaro folk claiming a car isn't stock by lowering the tire pressure relates to mustang folk formulating excuses.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

I'm not sure how me commenting on how "some" camaro folk claiming a car isn't stock by lowering the tire pressure relates to mustang folk formulating excuses.

The point made by one guy was that LMR (a Mustang shop) did a track rental and effed around until they hit 12.0 and that fanboys should hold off on the circle jerk until some professional evaluations are done. The kind done by (gasp) magazines. The kind where (gasp) they aren't going to eff around with air pressure. Altering your air pressure is allowed by the rules of this sites fast list. Rock on..

The excuses that will follow are that better tires are needed. That most Mustang GTs come with shity tires and if only.... Same story with Dodge boys.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by hotlap

The point made by one guy was that LMR (a Mustang shop) did a track rental and effed around until they hit 12.0 and that fanboys should hold off on the circle jerk until some professional evaluations are done. The kind done by (gasp) magazines. The kind where (gasp) they aren't going to eff around with air pressure. Altering your air pressure is allowed by the rules of this sites fast list. Rock on..

The excuses that will follow are that better tires are needed. That most Mustang GTs come with shity tires and if only.... Same story with Dodge boys.

They (LMR) made 6 runs and everyone on here seemed to think they made hundreds of runs and modified the car. Hell, I've made 15-20 runs hotlapping dragstrips on dead track nights.

IMHO, the train of thought that the car was somehow modified is much more outlandish than the thought that it is somehow the norm.

Why would a performance magazine...that sells performance part to make a car go faster try to make a stock car look faster than it really is? If anything else, you think they would try to make it look slower...which would make their aftermarket parts look better.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

They (LMR) made 6 runs and everyone on here seemed to think they made hundreds of runs and modified the car. Hell, I've made 15-20 runs hotlapping dragstrips on dead track nights.

IMHO, the train of thought that the car was somehow modified is much more outlandish than the thought that it is somehow the norm.

Why would a performance magazine...that sells performance part to make a car go faster try to make a stock car look faster than it really is? If anything else, you think they would try to make it look slower...which would make their aftermarket parts look better.

Again generalizing with "everyone". The larger point was that this result is from a Mustang shop so take it as that. In time there will be a body of data that will show what the "as delivered" car can do. The gamut of owner average, hero runs and magazines tests.

So, go ahead. Adjust your tire pressure boys! The point made by one was that professional reviews won't. Let it go.

I understand the enthusiasm for the new GT. The difference between a 12.0 and 12.9 second car is huge and not having to get there through the aftermarket and voiding your warranty is even better. That's what we've been saying since the fall of 2015.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

They (LMR) made 6 runs and everyone on here seemed to think they made hundreds of runs and modified the car. Hell, I've made 15-20 runs hotlapping dragstrips on dead track nights.

IMHO, the train of thought that the car was somehow modified is much more outlandish than the thought that it is somehow the norm.

Why would a performance magazine...that sells performance part to make a car go faster try to make a stock car look faster than it really is? If anything else, you think they would try to make it look slower...which would make their aftermarket parts look better.

Do you think it is a coincidence that they got their car and have already run it, and modified it before a single independent tester has gotten it? LMR, American Muscle, CJ Pony Parts and the like sell parts for Mustangs and Mustangs only. To make money off enthusiasts they need people to first buy the car. So they want it to look at least just as fast as the SS.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Again generalizing with "everyone". The larger point was that this result is from a Mustang shop so take it as that. In time there will be a body of data that will show what the "as delivered" car can do. The gamut of owner average, hero runs and magazines tests.

So, go ahead. Adjust your tire pressure boys! The point made by one was that professional reviews won't. Let it go.

I understand the enthusiasm for the new GT. The difference between a 12.0 and 12.9 second car is huge and not having to get there through the aftermarket and voiding your warranty is even better. That's what we've been saying since the fall of 2015.

Right, and the alternate point was....you can't dismiss it because it was from a mustang shop.

Agree though, it's a wait and see game...but excuses on both fronts are lame.

Originally Posted by Chadicus

Do you think it is a coincidence that they got their car and have already run it, and modified it before a single independent tester has gotten it? LMR, American Muscle, CJ Pony Parts and the like sell parts for Mustangs and Mustangs only. To make money off enthusiasts they need people to first buy the car. So they want it to look at least just as fast as the SS.

They bought the first vehicle they could. They even stated they would have like to have gotten a better version... but that was the first available. The fact that they were the first publish 1/4 mile numbers was excellent planning...as they had a dragstrip reserved and didn't have to wait until they opened on the weekends.

All other magazines and reviewers have to wait for a card from Ford to do an official review. They are all likely wrapping up their write-ups as we speak.

And in all honestly, it's in their best interest to sandbag the results of the MY18. They sell based off of performance delta. People aren't going to buy the car based off of their single review/results...at least not enough to support their entire aftermarket.

The mustang aftermarket makes more money when the mustang is slower than the camaro. People modify their cars to keep up with the Jonses. Hell, the new exhaust options they offer is likely going to put a significant dent in aftermarket sales.