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Old 05-21-2015, 06:22 PM   #85
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I believe a non turbo 4 is almost 3400lbs even so I would assume once you add a turbo,intercooler and other little stuff it would be at least 3500lbs. Even if its 3490 (aka 34xx) that's still less then 50lbs away from the ecoboost which has a lot more power. Guess only time will tell.


Well times have changed sir. A 1000 bucks worth of upgrades on a ecoboost mustang will run or beat a current SS camaro and maybe even 5.0. So if it only takes a 1000 dollars to go just as fast yet cost 10-15,000 less to buy is it worth it? I'd say so and that's why ford is selling them like hot cakes.
You "believe", but I just told you what it is. The ATS 4 is at least 100 pounds lighter than the Ecoboost.

1,000 bucks in an ecoboost will not beat a 5.0. If you think so, bring the car, some money, and let's find out.

And for the record, a non turbo 4 doesn't even exist in the ATS coupe.

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Old 05-21-2015, 07:55 PM   #86
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:55 AM   #87
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You "believe", but I just told you what it is. The ATS 4 is at least 100 pounds lighter than the Ecoboost.

1,000 bucks in an ecoboost will not beat a 5.0. If you think so, bring the car, some money, and let's find out.

And for the record, a non turbo 4 doesn't even exist in the ATS coupe.
I was unaware it didn't come with a n/a 4. My bad. I do know though see that it has a luxury and non-luxury version. That explains the weight difference.

As for the ecoboost vs gt I don't have access to either but you can search the web or youtube to see what's up. Here's one with a tire and tune only. That should probably leave a few bucks to spend on other parts. https://youtu.be/H2dkcQGQBXs
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:05 AM   #88
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Plus I said "run with OR beat" and "maybe".
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:07 AM   #89
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Even if it does come in at 3400-3450lbs its still down on power a good chunk. Now if the v6 can weigh 3500-3550lbs it should be a good run stock.
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Old 05-22-2015, 07:48 AM   #90
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Good prep,good weather and a solid driver helps with he hero runs. Now what does "otherwise stock really mean"? Was it completely stock minus the seats? Did it have a sticky tire or stock rubber? Either way that's a strong running car for what it is. Hell that's ls1 territory.
Yes when I say otherwise stock it was on the factory wheels and tires with no other modifications beside the seats
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Old 05-22-2015, 07:53 AM   #91
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You "believe", but I just told you what it is. The ATS 4 is at least 100 pounds lighter than the Ecoboost.

1,000 bucks in an ecoboost will not beat a 5.0. If you think so, bring the car, some money, and let's find out.

And for the record, a non turbo 4 doesn't even exist in the ATS coupe.
$1,000 bucks in an ecoboost will absolutely beat a GT. I'm not sure about the rules for posting links to other forums on here but if you want it I'll link you to a thread with video and time slips of an ecoboost running a 12.7 @ 109mph and beating a 5.0 at the same time. It also happens to be with the same Livernois tune that I'm currently running

He is on stock wheels and tires and has a down pipe, tune and intake
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:00 AM   #92
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Yes when I say otherwise stock it was on the factory wheels and tires with no other modifications beside the seats
And a light tune he didn't want to tell anyone about so he could stretch his E-pecker.

Mags are getting 14.0-14.1. I'll give you a few tenths off that, because that's the way it happens. 13.8, sure. 13.6 - Maybe, with a great run. 13.2, stock, No.
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And a light tune he didn't want to tell anyone about so he could stretch his E-pecker.

Mags are getting 14.0-14.1. I'll give you a few tenths off that, because that's the way it happens. 13.8, sure. 13.6 - Maybe, with a great run. 13.2, stock, No.
False, it is perfectly possible. Livernois ran an 11.8 in their ecoboost with their tune and only the front passenger seat pulled on DRs
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$1,000 bucks in an ecoboost will absolutely beat a GT. I'm not sure about the rules for posting links to other forums on here but if you want it I'll link you to a thread with video and time slips of an ecoboost running a 12.7 @ 109mph and beating a 5.0 at the same time. It also happens to be with the same Livernois tune that I'm currently running

He is on stock wheels and tires and has a down pipe, tune and intake
So, you had one guy that beat a 5.0 and now that means it will beat them down? Funny, I looked at multiple videos of tuned with Drag Radials and they're trapping 106-07 at 12.6.. That's a low trap speed with a solid ET.. Wonder why.. Hmmm. Couldn't be the tires.

I don't think there is anything against posting links, but I could be wrong. I'm sure I can find it in the ecoboost Mustang6G section.

At the end of the day, it's a 4 cylinder in a Mustang or Camaro.. Sure, it can be made somewhat quick, but the v8 can be made even quicker with most likely less of a chance of blowing up. Want to talk about bang for buck? Just buy a used 4 cylinder turbo car then and mod since you'd be voiding warranty on your Mustang anyway.
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Let's run down the strip until either the 5.0 or the 2.3 blows up..Haha.
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:14 AM   #96
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Ecoswag, have you used your track apps? If so, what kind of times have you gotten?
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:21 AM   #97
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So, you had one guy that beat a 5.0 and now that means it will beat them down? Funny, I looked at multiple videos of tuned with Drag Radials and they're trapping 106-07 at 12.6.. That's a low trap speed with a solid ET.. Wonder why.. Hmmm. Couldn't be the tires.

I don't think there is anything against posting links, but I could be wrong. I'm sure I can find it in the ecoboost Mustang6G section.

At the end of the day, it's a 4 cylinder in a Mustang or Camaro.. Sure, it can be made somewhat quick, but the v8 can be made even quicker with most likely less of a chance of blowing up. Want to talk about bang for buck? Just buy a used 4 cylinder turbo car then and mod since you'd be voiding warranty on your Mustang anyway.
On the street trap speed doesn't matter. If you pull up next to a tuned mustang EB that is putting down 360-380ft-lb torque at the wheels at around 3000rpm you better not assume that because you have a 5.0 you are going to win to the next light. There are plenty of videos on youtube to prove it.

And like I said that run was on stock tires so he had to keep traction control on
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Just looked at the Mustang6G threads for 1/4 on the v8 and 4 turbo.. The 5.0 is killing it.
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