[94boosted]

I am a big M2 fan, I drove a 2017 manual and really enjoyed the car, it's size is very advantageous in an autocross setting, great brakes and nice power delivery, felt very nicely balanced. Even though the 19' got a nice bump in power it did gain quite a bit of weight (mostly over the front axle I believe) I wonder how much, if at all faster the 19' will be compared to the 2016-18 cars on an auto-x course.

I probably would have considered an M2 except for us here in Canada you can get a 1LE new for low 50's but could luck getting into a new M2 for less than 80.

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

So I didn't realize that the size difference between the two was so close, of course the 1LE is about a foot longer but it is less than 2in wider. These dimensions are important for Autocross, where the M2 Comp will most likely be classed with the 1LE eventually, as of now only the regular M2 is up against the 1LE and I think we will win that fight easy enough (course depending), but the M2 Comp should put up more of a fight. It's good to see the the size advantage isn't that much in favor of the M2 so that give me hope haha I've had to deal with some Miata friendly courses where I literally have to slow down to like 15mph to fit through a tiny gate, that shit is annoying!!!

Pretty sure the 2019 M2 Comp (w/ S55) is in BS for 2019 at least according to the draft rules (https://www.scca.com/downloads/43452...duced/download) the only M2 that's in AS still is the Performance Edition (ZL9) which got the factory coilovers, if I am reading Appendix A correctly.

[wjones14]

Originally Posted by Hops

Would there be a greater price difference in the real world? More GM discounts and 1ss 1le is cheaper than $50k right?

Road & Track had a 2SS 1LE with no options other than the 1LE option. The tip-off was that they said it had heated and cooled seats. $49,995 is the MSRP for a 2019 2SS 1LE.

[zx9rmal]

Originally Posted by Entaille

what's going to be scary is when folks modify their s55 equipped comp m2's. they can make some very insane power for very little money.

One would think so. Power goes dead flat at 5K.

[Chris V]

I have both an F80 M3 and a Whipple-charged 1LE.

The M3 has DCT and a tune, and it's fast. It's also buzzy and rattly and tiresome to drive.
The 1LE is more plush, has a better-assembled interior, and a perfect One Lap companion.

The M3 is daily driven and is going to be turned into something else, and the Camaro gets to keep the garage.

The M2C is the same weight as the M3, and gives up stuff like the carbon roof to the M3/4. I think the M2 has smaller wheels than the M3 as well, which hurts it for autocross at the same weight.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by zx9rmal

One would think so. Power goes dead flat at 5K.

Also, the chassis isn't as good and it is undertired. All the power in the world won't help you if you can't convert that power into grip.

I had a 16' M3 and even at stock power levels and with extreme performance tires on, I still had issues with traction most of the time.

[FNxR3DNECK]

Originally Posted by 94boosted

Pretty sure the 2019 M2 Comp (w/ S55) is in BS for 2019 at least according to the draft rules (https://www.scca.com/downloads/43452...duced/download) the only M2 that's in AS still is the Performance Edition (ZL9) which got the factory coilovers, if I am reading Appendix A correctly.

Looks like they might have slipped it in there in the draft rules, there was nothing mentioned in any of the Fast-tracks about the Comp. Either way I still think the 1LE can beat it, should be interesting.

[carguy55]

I love the M cars .... as I pass them on track

[Atlas24601]

The SS 1LE wins another rigged comparison test. For the prices to be close they should have compared the ZL1 and the M2 Competition. That wouldnt even be a contest though. The M2 Competition would get destroyed at corners, braking, and on the straights in that comparison.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I paid $47K for my 2SS 1LE.

It is probably hard for magazines to speculate on anything other than MSRP though, as anything under MSRP varies too much across the country and dealer.

Agreed! Average selling price is information really on the buyer to obtain, magazines can only do so much as you say.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Also, the chassis isn't as good and it is undertired. All the power in the world won't help you if you can't convert that power into grip.

I had a 16' M3 and even at stock power levels and with extreme performance tires on, I still had issues with traction most of the time.

The one thing I am not yet sold on with this Gen's Chevy performance cars is the LT1.

You had a s65, have a F80, and an LT1. The F80 excites me in no way as I can't stand the sound. The LT1 from the outside looking in seems really boring, but at the same time I know torque is tons of fun from my modded LS3 1LE.

I really like the looks of the Grand Sport and love the value of the 1LE, but I fear if I bought either, the one glaring thing I would want to change is the one thing I can't...the engine.

I haven't test driven either yet, am I wrong about the LT1?

[7speed]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

The one thing I am not yet sold on with this Gen's Chevy performance cars is the LT1.

You had a s65, have a F80, and an LT1. The F80 excites me in no way as I can't stand the sound. The LT1 from the outside looking in seems really boring, but at the same time I know torque is tons of fun from my modded LS3 1LE.

I really like the looks of the Grand Sport and love the value of the 1LE, but I fear if I bought either, the one glaring thing I would want to change is the one thing I can't...the engine.

I haven't test driven either yet, am I wrong about the LT1?

Get a Zl1 then?

[Laststandard]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

The one thing I am not yet sold on with this Gen's Chevy performance cars is the LT1.

You had a s65, have a F80, and an LT1. The F80 excites me in no way as I can't stand the sound. The LT1 from the outside looking in seems really boring, but at the same time I know torque is tons of fun from my modded LS3 1LE.

I really like the looks of the Grand Sport and love the value of the 1LE, but I fear if I bought either, the one glaring thing I would want to change is the one thing I can't...the engine.

I haven't test driven either yet, am I wrong about the LT1?

What's boring about it? The fact that it's 'just' an OHV V8?

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

The one thing I am not yet sold on with this Gen's Chevy performance cars is the LT1.

You had a s65, have a F80, and an LT1. The F80 excites me in no way as I can't stand the sound. The LT1 from the outside looking in seems really boring, but at the same time I know torque is tons of fun from my modded LS3 1LE.

I really like the looks of the Grand Sport and love the value of the 1LE, but I fear if I bought either, the one glaring thing I would want to change is the one thing I can't...the engine.

I haven't test driven either yet, am I wrong about the LT1?

I felt confident with the LS3, proven reliable performer.
I too was a little skeptical about the LT1 as GDI is fairly new compared to the port injection it replaced.
So far it seems the LT1 it a good engine, very similar to the LS3 with just a little more complexity thrown in with the fuel system.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by Laststandard

What's boring about it? The fact that it's 'just' an OHV V8?

Boring because NA?