[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by 2000form

Do Kooks have the ball flange collector or are they slip on. I wish the manufacturers would make them so that you could easily unbolt them from the rest of the exhaust. I have American Racing Headers on my 2000 formula (slip on) and I basically need to remove the entire exhaust if I need to do something that's affected by the pipes. It really sucks.

Ball.

They are known for this.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Ball.

They are known for this.

One good reason to go with ARH or Hooker IMO. I do like the fact ARH is 100% American made and as mentioned their customer support is awesome.

[2000form]

Also looks like the american racing header has an intermediate system that will bolt up to a aftermarket cat-back system (I assume) where kooks doesn't seem to have an equivalent product.

What about cats? Are most getting them? FL doesn't have emission testing now. Will they make the car a little quieter? Is there only a 3-4 rwhp difference?

[Hard Parker]

ARH full system hooks up to your axle back but it's one or the other


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[mlee]

Originally Posted by 2000form

Also looks like the american racing header has an intermediate system that will bolt up to a aftermarket cat-back system (I assume) where kooks doesn't seem to have an equivalent product.

What about cats? Are most getting them? FL doesn't have emission testing now. Will they make the car a little quieter? Is there only a 3-4 rwhp difference?

If you can get past inspection without them go for it. That's always best, especially if you are Force Inducted or plan to go that way.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by bybcous

I do not believe this but I would more so say you won't notice a big difference between the two brands 30 hp is alot in my books lol.

No LTs by themselves give a real world 30 RWHP on the CA6 SS. By themselves they give around 15 if you get the 1 7/8ths even tuned. We will have to agree to disagree on that.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=432604

And again here:

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472259

And these systems we are talking about like the ARH 1 7/8 +Pipes are $2,000+ and add the install if not DIY. Is it worth it? A personal decision. So far an SS A8 has run 11.0s with a ported TB + manifold, E85, and DRs. Smart, low cost, and fast. Would LTs have put this SS in the 10s? Yea most likely. But it may get there without them.

But if you are going supercharger (not turbos) or H/C the LTs will probably help a bit more.

Like the CAI, the stock exhaust is very good and there is little to gain on a stock car.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by 2000form

Do Kooks have the ball flange collector or are they slip on. I wish the manufacturers would make them so that you could easily unbolt them from the rest of the exhaust. I have American Racing Headers on my 2000 formula (slip on) and I basically need to remove the entire exhaust if I need to do something that's affected by the pipes. It really sucks.

ARH are now Ball Flange, easy service.

Ted.

[bybcous]

Kooks uses a easy clamp that takes 1 minute to remove both bolts to drop the exhaust.

[2000form]

Good to know. Thanks

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

No LTs by themselves give a real world 30 RWHP on the CA6 SS. By themselves they give around 15 if you get the 1 7/8ths even tuned. We will have to agree to disagree on that.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=432604

And again here:

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472259

And these systems we are talking about like the ARH 1 7/8 +Pipes are $2,000+ and add the install if not DIY. Is it worth it? A personal decision. So far an SS A8 has run 11.0s with a ported TB + manifold, E85, and DRs. Smart, low cost, and fast. Would LTs have put this SS in the 10s? Yea most likely. But it may get there without them.

But if you are going supercharger (not turbos) or H/C the LTs will probably help a bit more.

Like the CAI, the stock exhaust is very good and there is little to gain on a stock car.

I paid 980 shipped for coated kooks 1 7/8 with catless connection pipes.

Ill install myself got access to a lift.

For 980 its well worth it. And gains at the track have been better than what the dyno would suggest from what ive seen. On the stingray.

[JDP Motorsports]

I've installed both ARH and KOOKS on my 6th Gen. The ARH headers made slightly more HP but the biggest thing is fitment. The KOOKS hit the steering shaft under heavy right hand corner load where the ARH doesn't. The ARH headers have a thicker gauge stainless and better overall build quality. They are both excellent products but my vote for the 6th Gen is ARH.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
801-545-4215

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I paid 980 shipped for coated kooks 1 7/8 with catless connection pipes.

Ill install myself got access to a lift.

For 980 its well worth it. And gains at the track have been better than what the dyno would suggest from what ive seen. On the stingray.

That's not so bad, I guess when you start adding cats and more piping to that is when it gets expensive.

Good luck on the install, nice to have a lift.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Dyatech is another Great Option that will connect to your factory exhaust, available with cats or off road pipes.

We just got them in and they are SWEET.

Ted.

[pbdrew15]

Why is no one a fan of Stainless Works headers?