10-13-2022, 06:06 PM | #29 |
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I'll be using RaggTopp on mine. It's been used for years by Corvette owners.
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10-13-2022, 09:03 PM | #30 | |
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https://www.haartz.com/products/twillfast-rpc According to this link this material is made up of three layers. The middle layer is butyl rubber (elastomeric layer). Looks like the water proofing layer. Maybe this layer is breaking down or decomposing for some reason… Seeing and thinking about that I looked around for a chart on the chemical compatibility of butyl rubber and found this link: https://mykin.com/rubber-chemical-resistance-chart-4 It’s about o-ring selections and environment capability (fluids, etc) From that you could infer the compatibility of the cleaner or sealer you might use on your top. Looks like butyl rubber certainly doesn’t like some chemicals that are found in some cleaners, and protectants (look up the safety data sheets for compositions). Not going to guarantee this is it; but I’m going to think a bit harder know about what is applied to the top of the convertible. Anyhow that’s my initial thoughts. |
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10-14-2022, 08:56 AM | #31 | |
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10-14-2022, 03:05 PM | #32 |
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I've used both Raggtopp and Aerospace cleaners/protectants on my convertible top. I can't say with certainty, but I believe the issue started when I was using the Raggtopp products and has continually gotten worst after switching to the Aerospace products. If the problem is related to these products, my question for my particular situation is, "Why is it only happening in certain spots and only on the driver side?" A more general question is "Why aren't more vert owners who use these products experiencing the same problem?"
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10-14-2022, 03:44 PM | #33 | |
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Because my car will be a weekend warrior/live in the garage all its life, I may skip putting any products on the roof at all but still make sure any linkages are lubricated from time to time. Has anyone thought about using scotchguard? I know its an old product but has been used on upolstery and fabric for many many decades... Jason
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10-17-2022, 09:08 PM | #35 |
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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11-27-2022, 02:57 PM | #36 |
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Saw 2 more cars with this adhesive stuff on the tops. Same location on each top; rectangular shaped patches between the bows, going from 1 side to the other.
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03-16-2023, 07:34 AM | #37 |
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I have never used those cleaners on my car and it is still having these issues. I took it to the dealer and they say they have never seen anything like it. I have a 2016 with 53,000 miles on it garage kept and parked at work with no trees. I don't understand how this is happening?
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04-05-2023, 09:17 PM | #38 |
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After reading through these posts again, maybe I am wrong but all of the cars that seem to be affected are 2016/2017's???
Can anyone chime in what year their car is and if you are having the issue? Could have been a bad batch of tops... Jason
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04-06-2023, 03:11 PM | #39 |
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Just skimmed through the entire thread. classicrockr, Trueflangel and I all have 2016s. Didn't see any posts from any other members indicating that they also have this issue.
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04-06-2023, 08:44 PM | #40 |
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04-07-2023, 08:45 AM | #41 |
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I have a 2016, and it does show some markings that could match what is being described here.
OTOH, I think I only noticed it after I had applied the two-step 303 protection scheme, and I know I applied a little too much of it in one spot, on the "C" pillar (driver's side, of course). So when I noticed what might be described as the "adhesive coming through", I chalked it up to slight over-application, and didn't think of it again. Now, though, when it stops raining, I will check to see if the marks exist between the bows and from side to side. Disclaimer: due to absolutely horrible house-purchase decision-making, I don't have a garage, so the baby sits outside all the time. Whether that exacerbates the adhesive problem, I could not say.
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04-07-2023, 02:49 PM | #42 |
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I haven't replaced my top...YET. I suspect I'll probably have to replace it in the next year or so because of the rear window coming unglued.
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