2018 SS 1LE vs Mustang GT PP1 -- Head2Head coming - Page 101

oldman · 01-31-2018, 08:36 PM

Jeezus what a car, I'm sure when I'm gone, the oldlady's new boy toy will have one on my retirement... da't why I keeping working. Hope he enjoys it.

kttxz06 · 01-31-2018, 08:51 PM

Yea, the Midnight Fall Gray or whatever they are gonna call it is sick. Man, those tires. Gonna have to buy a new set to daily drive in. We'll see what happens when I get tired of my Zl1. If I have it in me, I might just get a Zr1. Then have Matt build it up to 1000Hp. haha. But holy shit, those tires look rough. Those are the cups aren't they?

kttxz06 · 01-31-2018, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Jeezus what a car, I'm sure when I'm gone, the oldlady's new boy toy will have one on my retirement... da't why I keeping working. Hope he enjoys it.

haha, dude. Messed up.

BlaqWhole · 01-31-2018, 09:52 PM

That ZR1 is looking even more appealing now. I saw the ZL1 trying to keep up with the Ford GT on the one video. And as impressive as it was, the ZL1 just was no match even tho it was being pushed while the Ford GT didn't seem to be breaking a sweat. So if the ZR1 is beating the Ford GT by THAT much then I can only imagine...

torqueaddict · 01-31-2018, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

No.

They'll say it's the better car because it'll hold it's value longer (as if someone who paid that much for a car would just casually sell it and not send it to a collection)

They'll say that it's a more unique car (which it is)

They'll say that it's a true race car (which..again it is)

The best part about it is everyone who defends it tooth and nail has zero chance of ever owning one.

That pretty much sums it up.

kttxz06 · 01-31-2018, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

That ZR1 is looking even more appealing now. I saw the ZL1 trying to keep up with the Ford GT on the one video. And as impressive as it was, the ZL1 just was no match even tho it was being pushed while the Ford GT didn't seem to be breaking a sweat. So if the ZR1 is beating the Ford GT by THAT much then I can only imagine...

I know. I'm rethinking my next purchase now too. But damnit, i just got out of a Z06. Not sure if I want another Vette right now, but good lord, if it runs like that stock? I don't know. And at that $130k price point? Might be tough to pass up. Think about this. It's $40k cheaper than the GTR Nismo in which I'm in love with and this car will wipe the floor with the GTR so.

Syphon23 · 01-31-2018, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kttxz06

I know. I'm rethinking my next purchase now too. But damnit, i just got out of a Z06. Not sure if I want another Vette right now, but good lord, if it runs like that stock? I don't know. And at that $130k price point? Might be tough to pass up. Think about this. It's $40k cheaper than the GTR Nismo in which I'm in love with and this car will wipe the floor with the GTR so.

Give in to the dark side.

BlaqWhole · 02-01-2018, 12:01 AM

Oh wait...the Ford GT didn't have the AC delete nor the titanium exhaust which all saves a few pounds. So it doesn't count...

Godfatha · 02-01-2018, 06:18 AM

Any chance we see the ZR1 on the Nurburgring?

ST1LE · 02-01-2018, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Godfatha

Any chance we see the ZR1 on the Nurburgring?

For sure!

Norm Peterson · 02-01-2018, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

No.

They'll say it's the better car because it'll hold it's value longer (as if someone who paid that much for a car would just casually sell it and not send it to a collection)

They'll say that it's a more unique car (which it is)

They'll say that it's a true race car (which..again it is)

The best part about it is everyone who defends it tooth and nail has zero chance of ever owning one.

Probably all true.

It's also true that some of us still think Ford didn't give it the right kind of engine and that it'd be worth more if they had.

Norm

newmoon · 02-01-2018, 10:28 AM

What I don't understand is if the 6th Gen Camaro is such an engineering success, has all the performance standards, is such a performance bargain, wins the publication shootouts, but yet still doesn't sell. People don't want it.

January Sales:

Mustang 4732
Camaro 2867
Challenger 3405

13vertss · 02-01-2018, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

What I don't understand is if the 6th Gen Camaro is such an engineering success, has all the performance standards, is such a performance bargain, wins the publication shootouts, but yet still doesn't sell. People don't want it.

January Sales:

Mustang 4732
Camaro 2867
Challenger 3405

None of those numbers are great, but what the Ford has over the Camaro in winter months is all season tires over summer only tires. The Camaro is more of sports car nice weather car, while the Mustang is more set up for all year driving.

Hopefully GM will change this for 2019

SpeedIsLife · 02-01-2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

None of those numbers are great, but what the Ford has over the Camaro in winter months is all season tires over summer only tires. The Camaro is more of sports car nice weather car, while the Mustang is more set up for all year driving.

Hopefully GM will change this for 2019

In January of 2010, when the economy was in free-fall and people were losing their asses left, right and center..the 5th Gen sold 5,371 cars.

Flash forward to 2018, when the economy is arguably worlds better and people have more cash..and the 6th Gen Camaro, which is arguably a much better car in every metric (except livability and daily usefulness) ..can only manage 53% of that.

Why?

01-31-2018, 08:36 PM	#1401
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,317	Jeezus what a car, I'm sure when I'm gone, the oldlady's new boy toy will have one on my retirement... da't why I keeping working. Hope he enjoys it. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

01-31-2018, 08:51 PM	#1402
kttxz06 Drives: '18 Zl1. '18 GT350. Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Katy Posts: 2,104	Yea, the Midnight Fall Gray or whatever they are gonna call it is sick. Man, those tires. Gonna have to buy a new set to daily drive in. We'll see what happens when I get tired of my Zl1. If I have it in me, I might just get a Zr1. Then have Matt build it up to 1000Hp. haha. But holy shit, those tires look rough. Those are the cups aren't they? __________________ There's only 2 people I trust. 1 of them is me, the other's not you. 2018 Zl1. 1199 RWHP/931 TQ.

02-01-2018, 10:28 AM	#1412
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	What I don't understand is if the 6th Gen Camaro is such an engineering success, has all the performance standards, is such a performance bargain, wins the publication shootouts, but yet still doesn't sell. People don't want it. January Sales: Mustang 4732 Camaro 2867 Challenger 3405 __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

01-31-2018, 09:52 PM	#1404
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	That ZR1 is looking even more appealing now. I saw the ZL1 trying to keep up with the Ford GT on the one video. And as impressive as it was, the ZL1 just was no match even tho it was being pushed while the Ford GT didn't seem to be breaking a sweat. So if the ZR1 is beating the Ford GT by THAT much then I can only imagine...

02-01-2018, 12:01 AM	#1408
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	Oh wait...the Ford GT didn't have the AC delete nor the titanium exhaust which all saves a few pounds. So it doesn't count...

02-01-2018, 06:18 AM	#1409
Godfatha Drives: 2016 2SS Mosaic Black Convertible Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 116	Any chance we see the ZR1 on the Nurburgring?

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