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Old 12-05-2018, 11:12 AM   #15
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That kit really does sound amazing, you almost had me talked into it. I actually called Janetty with a credit card in hand ready to place my order but he was busy with another customer. By the time he called back a little while later I had started leaning back towards the LSA, it just seemed like a better fit for me and my goals. I'm sure I would've been happy either way though. You're probably lucky I didn't go with ESS, I would've drove you insane with questions since you're pretty much the only one here who has it. I can answer almost all of my LSA questions by using the search feature, that was a pretty good selling point for this FI noob.
I am sorry I didn't earn your business, but I think you really missed out on a great supercharger kit, we sold 2 of these during our Black Friday sale.

We have always been a fan of the Vortech units but this kit takes it to the next level.

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Old 12-05-2018, 08:05 PM   #16
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I’ll be back on the dyno in a week or two with the new blower and e85. Since I still have the stock shortblock, i dont want to push it much past 800. Ill start off with the biggest pulley and go from there.

The only thing I didnt like about the lsa, or PD blowers is having to deal with heat exchangers and hoses and liquids, but then again you may not need to pull the front bumper. The torque curve is great tho. Pros and cons...
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:36 PM   #17
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I am sorry I didn't earn your business, but I think you really missed out on a great supercharger kit, we sold 2 of these during our Black Friday sale.

We have always been a fan of the Vortech units but this kit takes it to the next level.

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Yea I'm sure I'll probably regret it later down the road if/when I max out my LSA but for right now it just made the most sense. Oh and you did earn my business, I'll be contacting you to tune this beast for me once I'm finished with the install.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:00 AM   #18
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Yea I'm sure I'll probably regret it later down the road if/when I max out my LSA but for right now it just made the most sense. Oh and you did earn my business, I'll be contacting you to tune this beast for me once I'm finished with the install.
Thank you sir I look forward to working with you.

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Old 12-06-2018, 10:27 AM   #19
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Jrod,

When you max out the LSA - you can move to a heartbeat and pick up prob another 125hp. Maybe by them they will have an eaton 2650 version of the heartbeat...

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Old 12-06-2018, 07:31 PM   #20
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Started the swap. Took some pics. It would have only taken 1 hour but we ran into a small problem with some missing bolts for the new bracket.

Some comparison photos.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:10 AM   #21
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I would suggest running the bypass to atmosphere instead or recirculating hot air back in to the blower.

That bypass will likely be too small for that large blower you can add a second one or switch to a much larger one.

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Old 12-07-2018, 10:02 AM   #22
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Great update, what blower did you upgrade to?
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:53 AM   #23
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I would suggest running the bypass to atmosphere instead or recirculating hot air back in to the blower.

That bypass will likely be too small for that large blower you can add a second one or switch to a much larger one.

Ted.
I will mention that to the engineer im working with. What would be the symptoms of a surge valve being too small?

I guess the easy answer is SURGE! lol, So will the blower take longer to recover after shifts, and take longer to make boost again?

I'm tempted to pull the surge hose off the valve and let it sing, but being in Florida we do get a lot of deep puddles very often. Hate for that valve to open while submerged.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:03 AM   #24
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Great update, what blower did you upgrade to?
It's a proprietary blower of ESS Tuning. We are doing some Research and Development at the moment, but hopefully the "G3" blower will be available as an option when you purchase the kit.

I'm just a tester, so I don't have all the details.
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:13 PM   #25
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This is cool, looking forward to the results!
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:15 PM   #26
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Ok, i pulled the surge hose. Vented to atmosphere. Not like i drive it in the rain anyway. They suggested I start off with the largest of the 3 pulleys shipped which is 110mm, but I dont listen to reason well. I went with smallest 100mm. I just need a 3.5 inch hose clamp and some kind of cap for the surge hole in the intake tubing and I’ll be off to the dyno. Gonna fill the tank with E85, change stoich to 10.5, and limp to the dyno. Whenever I can get an appointment.

Not sure why all my pics come out sideways.
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:37 AM   #27
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I will mention that to the engineer im working with. What would be the symptoms of a surge valve being too small?

I guess the easy answer is SURGE! lol, So will the blower take longer to recover after shifts, and take longer to make boost again?

I'm tempted to pull the surge hose off the valve and let it sing, but being in Florida we do get a lot of deep puddles very often. Hate for that valve to open while submerged.
Yes sir you answered your own question, You will get surging at Light throttle cruise if you don't dump all that pressure.

The advantage of maximum bypass is cooler running blower, colder charge air before the intercooler further increasing efficiency, improved gas mileage due to less drag from the blower working against boost.

There will be Zero change to throttle response or recovery.

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Old 12-08-2018, 01:38 PM   #28
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I will mention that to the engineer im working with. What would be the symptoms of a surge valve being too small?

I guess the easy answer is SURGE! lol, So will the blower take longer to recover after shifts, and take longer to make boost again?

I'm tempted to pull the surge hose off the valve and let it sing, but being in Florida we do get a lot of deep puddles very often. Hate for that valve to open while submerged.
Best case....it'll make fluttery noises.

Worst case...it'll destroy the supercharger.

The BOV on a blower car will always be ejecting air in operation so it should be hard to see water ingested, but probably not impossible.
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