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03-07-2017, 07:11 PM
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Chevrolet bulletin concerning aftermarket K&N Style Filter and warranty
Ok, so the circumstances might be a grey area but it is now confirmed, that Chevrolet can deny warranty based upon aftermarket K&N air filter - (wth?) Please see page 2
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03-07-2017, 07:26 PM
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Don't mean to mince words...but K&N sells two style of induction products...one is what they claim is a "replacement filter". The other are their high performance "cold air intakes". Without taking a side...I will say that one simply replaces the standard filter with a reusable/cleanable version...while the other drastically changes induction flow, and usually moves the MAF location.
I'm 99% sure that this bulletin refers to the latter of the two.
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03-07-2017, 07:50 PM
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". If this type of piston damage is present and aftermarket items are found during steps 2 or 3, this should not be considered a warrantable repair. 2. Inspect for aftermarket components, such as an exhaust, ignition, high performance air filter (K&N style), or air intake system. Take photos and document accordingly if anything is found. " |
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03-07-2017, 07:53 PM
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03-07-2017, 08:01 PM
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I'd bet every one of those piston pictures came from an extreme build, i.e. Nitrous, methanol, blowers, etc
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03-07-2017, 08:05 PM
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Maybe its not the first time "hearing" it but it is confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt now..
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03-07-2017, 08:08 PM
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Should this be a sticky?
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03-07-2017, 08:09 PM
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For LT1 GM has their own yes? with calibration?
I voted yes because GM can't cover bad tunes and bad aftermarket products, so I agree they should not cover it. Can a little more air really do that much damage?
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03-07-2017, 08:10 PM
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03-07-2017, 08:10 PM
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Those pics make you wonder how safe the "no tune" cold air kits really are considering they mostly achieve their hp claims by leaning out the air/fuel mixture due to allowing unmetered air into the engine. I ran a K&N CAI on my 5th Gen ZL1 which picked up good hp, but it ran super lean from idle and part throttle and also leaned out at WOT. It also picked up KR in the lower rpm range at WOT. I can't speak for the new ZL1, but the 5th gen ZL1 has an aggressive tune from the factory, so I can see why GM does this. Bottom line is mod at your risk.
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03-07-2017, 08:18 PM
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I read somewhere....bear with me.... I have an old failing mind.,lol, There is a Fed law that they CAN'T "VOID" a warranty. If someone what to research it. Personally, I don't care, Dealers don't touch my crap (unless I'm standing right there directing) 30 year mechanic.
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03-07-2017, 08:24 PM
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I think warrantys are worthless...
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03-07-2017, 08:30 PM
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Keep in mind this is just GM's position on the subject. A judge may see it differently. Here's the classic example law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus...s_Warranty_Act 
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03-07-2017, 08:31 PM
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title15-chapter50&edition=prelim www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0138-auto-warranties-routine-maintenance But who do you think will win a paper battle? The average consumer isn't going to spend 10-15K defending themselves against General Motors.
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