[Doyal_Mcneff]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Can you post what other manufacturers do? Show us other manufacturers processes and their quality checks so we have something to compare.

Other manufacturers are TUV certified. And others powdercoat in the US. When you become an international brand, you have to be TUV certified if you want to sell in certain countries.

[BradfordCamaro]

Originally Posted by Doyal_Mcneff

I'm not saying there aren't positive reviews out there. There are people with zero issues I'm sure. All im saying is the quality control isn't there, and the rims are not powdercoated in LA.

I'm voicing my opinion because I'm tired of seeing these MRR talk about weight savings and how their wheel is lighter than forged and how they have a insight refinishing shop. If you notice, they always say it's for customer finishes. If you got gloss black....they were powdercoated overseas.

"I'm tired of seeing these MRR talk about weight savings" - Well, They are...
"...how they have a on sight refinishing shop" -Well, They do...
"...they always say it's for custom finishes" - Well, They did say that....
"....If you got gloss black....they were powder coated oversea" Yup, They did say that too...

What's the problem? Still have no idea what your complaint is?
You want video of their manufacturing process? Signed certificates of metallurgy?
You won't get that from any wheel manufacturer.
Why are you not asking that question of every wheel manufacturer and see how they respond to your demands

Originally Posted by Doyal_Mcneff

Other manufacturers are TUV certified. And others powdercoat in the US. When you become an international brand, you have to be TUV certified if you want to sell in certain countries.

MRR wheels are JWL certified... I guess they don't sell in TUV countries then??? Even HRE doesn't do that, for some models, but not all.


Ok, my bad for giving incomplete info. HRE CAN certify all their products when needed, I did not want to imply they can't.

[Glen e]

I use several shops in the south Florida area for my wheels. I went into one shop 9 months ago and they had a set of MMRs that Had come back because they were out of round, and they had weights all the way around , almost half the wheel, because they couldn't get them to balance. It's just what I saw, I don't know anything more than that. This particular shop was not hot on this wheel mfr.

[Doyal_Mcneff]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

"I'm tired of seeing these MRR talk about weight savings" - Well, They are...
"...how they have a on sight refinishing shop" -Well, They do...
"...they always say it's for custom finishes" - Well, They did say that....
"....If you got gloss black....they were powder coated oversea" Yup, They did say that too...

What's the problem? Still have no idea what your complaint is?
You want video of their manufacturing process? Signed certificates of metallurgy?
You won't get that from any wheel manufacturer.
Why are you not asking that question of every wheel manufacturer and see how they respond to your demands



MRR wheels are JWL certified... I guess they don't sell in TUV countries then??? Even HRE doesn't do that, for some models, but not all.

My complaint with MRR is that they don't QC their product. Even my new set has too many wheel weights. And yes they're lighter but not stronger which is a major issue unless your roads are perfect.


As far as asking other wheel companies...I have which is why I know HRE uses TUV.

[diirk]

Originally Posted by Doyal_Mcneff

My complaint with MRR is that they don't QC their product. Even my new set has too many wheel weights. And yes they're lighter but not stronger which is a major issue unless your roads are perfect.


As far as asking other wheel companies...I have which is why I know HRE uses TUV.

Can you share specifics on the wheels and tires?
Maybe we can narrow it down to a certain model, size, etc.

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by Doyal_Mcneff

My complaint with MRR is that they don't QC their product. Even my new set has too many wheel weights. And yes they're lighter but not stronger which is a major issue unless your roads are perfect.

This I can understand. It would be nice if all manufacturers would unbox and check the wheels for run out and balancing before shipping them out.

I track day my car and would like to be certain that the 1LE replicas can handle the strain of this without worrying about them breaking.

[FlowForm_Wheels]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Even HRE doesn't do that, for some models, but not all.[/FONT]

HRE's manufacturing facility has been TUV approved since 2008. If you're a German/Austrian customer for example who requires a TUV certification, that's no problem, we get the approval and move on (another reason why we have a secondary office in Stuttgart Germany - HRE GmbH). A customer who orders the same wheels for the same car in America, won't require the approval because US regulations don't require it, despite it being the same exact wheel which would have passed TUV if it was sent to Germany. So technically yes, some wheels aren't certified, but that's because the governing bodies of these countries don't require that certification.

Another example, all our wheels that are shipped to Japan will receive a JWL certification, but if that same set were to be produced for an American customer, no certification needed.


BTW to the mods - I know this is an MRR thread. I have no intention on posting anything in regards to MRR, but rather comment about our own processes to help others on the forum.

[BradfordCamaro]

Originally Posted by FlowForm_Wheels

HRE's manufacturing facility has been TUV approved since 2008. If you're a German/Austrian customer for example who requires a TUV certification, that's no problem, we get the approval and move on (another reason why we have a secondary office in Stuttgart Germany - HRE GmbH). A customer who orders the same wheels for the same car in America, won't require the approval because US regulations don't require it, despite it being the same exact wheel which would have passed TUV if it was sent to Germany. So technically yes, some wheels aren't certified, but that's because the governing bodies of these countries don't require that certification.

Another example, all our wheels that are shipped to Japan will receive a JWL certification, but if that same set were to be produced for an American customer, no certification needed.


BTW to the mods - I know this is an MRR thread. I have no intention on posting anything in regards to MRR, but rather comment about our own processes to help others on the forum.

Thank you for the insight to when/how certifications are needed.
I would like you to know my mention of your product was in no way intended as a negative. I added a qik edit to my original post.

[FlowForm_Wheels]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Thank you for the insight to when/how certifications are needed.
I would like you to know my mention of your product was in no way intended as a negative.

No problem! I didn't see it as negative, I just wanted to make sure it was clarified as to what you meant. All good

[GhostEye07]

I had the 228's for a few months and then switched to the M017's
I've tracked them and put them under some punishment and they are holding up great!
they are great wheels IMO! No issues whatsoever !

[Garys16SS]

I have the polished powder M017s and they are a great looking wheel. One wheel had no weights added and the other 3 were within 1 oz. The wheel assemblies were road forced balanced and weights were installed behind the ribs if possible. So far, no problems. (Note, the tires were the Goodyear G2s)

[BowtieRocket]

Originally Posted by GhostEye07

I had the 228's for a few months and then switched to the M017's
I've tracked them and put them under some punishment and they are holding up great!
they are great wheels IMO! No issues whatsoever !

Thanks for your experience. Tracked? Road course or drag strip?

[Doyal_Mcneff]

Originally Posted by FlowForm_Wheels

No problem! I didn't see it as negative, I just wanted to make sure it was clarified as to what you meant. All good

Thank you again for chiming in. It's good to see a brand step in and educate people when others don't step up to the plate.

[Doyal_Mcneff]

Originally Posted by FlowForm_Wheels

HRE's manufacturing facility has been TUV approved since 2008. If you're a German/Austrian customer for example who requires a TUV certification, that's no problem, we get the approval and move on (another reason why we have a secondary office in Stuttgart Germany - HRE GmbH). A customer who orders the same wheels for the same car in America, won't require the approval because US regulations don't require it, despite it being the same exact wheel which would have passed TUV if it was sent to Germany. So technically yes, some wheels aren't certified, but that's because the governing bodies of these countries don't require that certification.

Another example, all our wheels that are shipped to Japan will receive a JWL certification, but if that same set were to be produced for an American customer, no certification needed.


BTW to the mods - I know this is an MRR thread. I have no intention on posting anything in regards to MRR, but rather comment about our own processes to help others on the forum.

I have a question...why would some companies opt out of TUV? Is it a cost thing?