[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Xaxas

Is this the same A10 in the ZL1 or is it the lame A8 "Now with 2 extra gears for free!" truck transmission in the more plebeian models?

It's likely to be the same A10 in the SS, which is different from the A10 in the ZL1.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

The tranny seems to have 2 personalities. One is in Performance Shift mode where everything happens fast and angry. Like shooting a rifle. Bang, bang, bang. Up shifting or downshifting happens quick and in a hurry.

Then you have regular grocery getting mode. Downshifts are soft and so are the upshifts. So driving around town won’t be spectacular.

That’s my take on 16k miles of the A10 compared to over 150k miles of DCT.

How are the two modes selected? According to drive modes? Thanks!

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

It's likely to be the same A10 in the SS, which is different from the A10 in the ZL1.

Very good point!
That would disqualify it as my possible choice.

[Boost Creep]

Originally Posted by DC5

I made that third statement countless times in the past. I now own a third-generation Toyota Prius, and what's even worse, is that I love it.

lol
I work on them, very reliable cars, I just don't really think I'd ever own one.

[RUQWIKR]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

Very good point!
That would disqualify it as my possible choice.

10R80 with LT1, 10R90 with LT4

I'd assume the calibration has been tweaked for the SS 1LE with the auto probably similar to what was done with the ZL1 1LE auto.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

How are the two modes selected? According to drive modes? Thanks!

I am always in PTM mode 3. All you do is slightly tap the gas and the tranny flashes PSA.

I found this picture online.

[Xaxas]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

How are the two modes selected? According to drive modes? Thanks!

This mode only activates during 2 conditions:
* Hard Acceleration
* Hard Cornering
And it lingers as long as you're doing "performance" driving which is the previous 2 conditions, besides that, there is really no control over it, it defaults back to normal mode after a few seconds of tame driving, otherwise there is no way to control it.

That's one of the issues with "regular" autos in the Camaro, normal mode is great for everyday, performance shift mode is great for short bursts, however if you want to take control of the auto with the paddles or want prolonged performance driving, it falls short really fast, mind you I haven't driven an auto ZL1, but all I read about that transmission is pure praise.

Ideally, the auto SS 1LE SHOULD get the ZL1 Auto considering the 1LE is pretty much a ZL1 Driving package, suspension, diff, etc, but without the engine and cooling and Chevy has done an amazing job with the 1LE line over all Camaro model, hopefully the don't botch it.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by RUQWIKR

10R80 with LT1, 10R90 with LT4

I'd assume the calibration has been tweaked for the SS 1LE with the auto probably similar to what was done with the ZL1 1LE auto.

I see...I must admit i know nothing about how these 2 trannies differ et al. If it is just calibrated for lower power then I'd be ok with it. If its performance mode has been changed, then not so much...

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I am always in PTM mode 3. All you do is slightly tap the gas and the tranny flashes PSA.

I found this picture online.

You mean PTM Sport1?

Just read the post above and the tranny calibration seems to be based on purely throttle and G forces (or yaw values) vs anything else, which seems like a good design.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Xaxas

This mode only activates during 2 conditions:
* Hard Acceleration
* Hard Cornering
And it lingers as long as you're doing "performance" driving which is the previous 2 conditions, besides that, there is really no control over it, it defaults back to normal mode after a few seconds of tame driving, otherwise there is no way to control it.

That's one of the issues with "regular" autos in the Camaro, normal mode is great for everyday, performance shift mode is great for short bursts, however if you want to take control of the auto with the paddles or want prolonged performance driving, it falls short really fast, mind you I haven't driven an auto ZL1, but all I read about that transmission is pure praise.

Ideally, the auto SS 1LE SHOULD get the ZL1 Auto considering the 1LE is pretty much a ZL1 Driving package, suspension, diff, etc, but without the engine and cooling and Chevy has done an amazing job with the 1LE line over all Camaro model, hopefully the don't botch it.

Thanks for this info! Based on the vids it seems like the ZL1 A10 is most happy in fully auto mode vs paddle shifting. At least it seems incredibly capable in this mode.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

You mean PTM Sport1?

Just read the post above and the tranny calibration seems to be based on purely throttle and G forces (or yaw values) vs anything else, which seems like a good design.

Yes. PTM Sport 1. I don’t even look anymore. Muscle memory settings.
You can still go WOT without PSA being active. It just won’t be the same “at the ready” as PSA.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Yes. PTM Sport 1. I don’t even look anymore. Muscle memory settings.
You can still go WOT without PSA being active. It just won’t be the same “at the ready” as PSA.

Ok so this would contradict the post suggesting that PSA engages based on gas pedal alone (and G/yaw parms)?

So how do you go WOT without activating PSA? And what activates PSA? Drive mode, or gas pedal, or both?

[Xaxas]

Ok, big asterisk here, this was with my V6 2LT, it didn't have a Track mode or PTM, remember the ZL1 has a different and serious performance transmission, it also has a custom RPM launch control compared to "regular" launch control in the SS just to drive the point on how they're different

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Xaxas

Ok, big asterisk here, this was with my V6 2LT, it didn't have a Track mode or PTM, remember the ZL1 has a different and serious performance transmission, it also has a custom RPM launch control compared to "regular" launch control in the SS just to drive the point on how they're different

Got it. Thx!
Maybe i will just stick with what i know lol!
M6 in the 1le is rather excellent imo.