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Old 02-03-2021, 04:04 PM   #15
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I believe that's the Z06 with Z07 package that cost around $105K.
Are you absolutely sure about that?

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The 500 is way faster in a straight line, so given they are a "driver's race", the ZLE must be carrying more speed through the turns. You know?
That would make sense. The ZL1 being better balanced than the GT500 and a lot lighter should definitely be able to take the turns at higher speeds. If the ZLE was ahead then I do not think it gained it's ground in the straights. Unless maybe the GT500 lost a lot of time accelerating going into the straights due to being DOHC and only 7 speed trans and having no power/torque down low and needing more time to build up speed. Not for nothing but the ZL1 with the A10 and that small blower hits boost instantly. I don't know. Just a guess.
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+$18,000, +110HP, +CFTP goodies and the best it could do was 0.4 seconds against a 2 year old A10 ZL1/1LE.

Goes to show how superior the Alpha chassis is.

If this doesn't prove what a tremendous car and value the ZL1/1LE is.....I don't know what else would.
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The ZL1 has the gas tank problem too. Tires are doing well though.
Not really. The GT500 has that 16 gallon tank while the ZL1 has a 19 gallon tank. And the GT500 has worse MPGs. That says a lot right there.

What I wanna know is...how many laps did they get out of each of these cars?
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Old 02-03-2021, 04:08 PM   #16
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Are you absolutely sure about that?


That would make sense. The ZL1 being better balanced than the GT500 and a lot lighter should definitely be able to take the turns at higher speeds. If the ZLE was ahead then I do not think it gained it's ground in the straights. Unless maybe the GT500 lost a lot of time accelerating going into the straights due to being DOHC and only 7 speed trans and having no power/torque down low and needing more time to build up speed. Not for nothing but the ZL1 with the A10 and that small blower hits boost instantly. I don't know. Just a guess.

Truth.

Not really. The GT500 has that 16 gallon tank while the ZL1 has a 19 gallon tank. And the GT500 has worse MPGs. That says a lot right there.

What I wanna know is...how many laps did they get out of each of these cars?
On the gas thing, I'm saying I go through 1/2 to 3/4 of a tank every track session.
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Old 02-03-2021, 04:14 PM   #17
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Are you absolutely sure about that?


That would make sense. The ZL1 being better balanced than the GT500 and a lot lighter should definitely be able to take the turns at higher speeds. If the ZLE was ahead then I do not think it gained it's ground in the straights. Unless maybe the GT500 lost a lot of time accelerating going into the straights due to being DOHC and only 7 speed trans and having no power/torque down low and needing more time to build up speed. Not for nothing but the ZL1 with the A10 and that small blower hits boost instantly. I don't know. Just a guess.

Truth.

Not really. The GT500 has that 16 gallon tank while the ZL1 has a 19 gallon tank. And the GT500 has worse MPGs. That says a lot right there.

What I wanna know is...how many laps did they get out of each of these cars?

On price, looks like you could have done a 1LT with z07 for $88K:
https://www.lsxmag.com/news/official...g-and-options/

I just remember cross shopping ZLE with C7Z Z07 and kept seeing over $100K. Must have been loaded 3LTs.
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Old 02-03-2021, 05:57 PM   #18
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Are you absolutely sure about that?


That would make sense. The ZL1 being better balanced than the GT500 and a lot lighter should definitely be able to take the turns at higher speeds. If the ZLE was ahead then I do not think it gained it's ground in the straights. Unless maybe the GT500 lost a lot of time accelerating going into the straights due to being DOHC and only 7 speed trans and having no power/torque down low and needing more time to build up speed. Not for nothing but the ZL1 with the A10 and that small blower hits boost instantly. I don't know. Just a guess.

Truth.

Not really. The GT500 has that 16 gallon tank while the ZL1 has a 19 gallon tank. And the GT500 has worse MPGs. That says a lot right there.

What I wanna know is...how many laps did they get out of each of these cars?
I highly doubt the bolded part - the DCT would keep the GT500 in its powerband coming out of the turns.

The msrp of the Z06 from the lightning lap a few years ago was $100k, but I think they could be less optioned to be cheaper. Which, by the way, that Z06 at the 2015 Lightning lap was an M7 and it was 100 F outside according to the article written about it. Not insignificant.

I am looking forward to getting my C&D with all this LL info. in it.
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Old 02-03-2021, 06:04 PM   #19
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GT4RS looks like it's going to be a little monster
For sure, but that one will be more of a track car rather than a street car. Center lock wheels, while cool, are a pain for a street driven car. Might be too stiff (similar to the ZLE) for the street too.

It will be a bad ass track car though.
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+$18,000, +110HP, +CFTP goodies and the best it could do was 0.4 seconds against a 2 year old A10 ZL1/1LE.

Goes to show how superior the Alpha chassis is.

If this doesn't prove what a tremendous car and value the ZL1/1LE is.....I don't know what else would.
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What I wanna know is...how many laps did they get out of each of these cars?
I think I read once that they do 3 but I am not sure
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:56 AM   #21
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Imagine if the ZL1 had the LT5.
Imagine if the ZLE had carbon wheels!
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:41 AM   #22
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Not really. The GT500 has that 16 gallon tank while the ZL1 has a 19 gallon tank. And the GT500 has worse MPGs. That says a lot right there.

What I wanna know is...how many laps did they get out of each of these cars?

yeah, the lightning lap is really cool, it's been a fun way to compare cars. But i think they need to have a newer metric or something that captures potential issues in a 25min track session.
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Old 02-04-2021, 05:44 PM   #23
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yeah, the lightning lap is really cool, it's been a fun way to compare cars. But i think they need to have a newer metric or something that captures potential issues in a 25min track session.
I agree. Have all competitors do a 25-30 minute session running as hard as their drivers can pretty much push them. I bet there would be some big surprises.
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Old 02-04-2021, 05:59 PM   #24
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I agree. Have all competitors do a 25-30 minute session running as hard as their drivers can pretty much push them. I bet there would be some big surprises.
I like it
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Old 02-04-2021, 08:02 PM   #25
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Imagine if the ZLE had carbon wheels!
Are there any in the GM parts bin sitting around unused like the LT5?
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:54 AM   #26
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Everyone's forgetting that the GT500 is not just $18,000 more than a ZLE. Most people are buying the GT500 with ADM's of anywhere from $5k - $20k over sticker.

Put that into equation and the GT500 value quotient becomes pathetic. Sad part is you are still stuck with a porker of a S550 chassis with some go fast bits.
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Old 02-05-2021, 08:21 AM   #27
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Everyone's forgetting that the GT500 is not just $18,000 more than a ZLE. Most people are buying the GT500 with ADM's of anywhere from $5k - $20k over sticker.

Put that into equation and the GT500 value quotient becomes pathetic. Sad part is you are still stuck with a porker of a S550 chassis with some go fast bits.
Agree with you here, from personal experience every gt500 I've seen at the dealership was $112-115k. Thats was also 3 different experiences so not just one fluke. That was also the base, not cftp. Even using the lower base price because I can't imagine what you the cftp are going for, that's $45k for .37 seconds. Not a great return on investment
Just saying....
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Old 02-05-2021, 08:22 AM   #28
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There is a GT500 CFTP at a local dealer that is advetised for 120,000 more than I paid for my ZLE out the door!!!
For some though money isn’t an object but 120,000 more????
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