06-29-2020, 07:25 AM | #29 | ||
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large duration gentle lift cam is the cat's meow with the M6.
Not a bang for $$$ mod, but if you DIY the cost is not bad. 7200 RPM shift in a high compression direct inject V8 sounds amazing... My exhaust is NOT loud the engine is scare the pants off you loud, reminds me of my DZ302 back in the day. Check out this FBO M6:
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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06-29-2020, 09:46 AM | #31 | |
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06-29-2020, 10:35 AM | #32 |
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I never claimed the SS could be built into a Zl1, obviously FBO is about and limited to engine performance not handling, ergonomics etc. FBO can range from $1700 to $6000 and would probably add to the 5 year resale $1000. So the cost over 5 years is $700 to $5000.
I did say that IMO most guys with an SS would be "happy" with PS4s, never said nor alluded to an SS would out handle a ZL1 with said tires. Cheap FBO: E85, tune, CA front cat deletes, cut air box + green filter, Pray ported intake and TB say $1700 I got money to burn: E85, tune, LTs + green cats, RotoFab, ported MSD, 103MM TB, 3" exhaust say $4500 to $6000. I'd say off the cuff WHP difference 20. Clearly the cheap FBO, - increase in resale would only cost $700 over 5 years... chump change for the fun added.
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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06-29-2020, 04:31 PM | #34 |
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Neither I nor the OP want to build a SS in the ZL1. It is in your own deluded mind.
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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06-29-2020, 05:41 PM | #35 | |||
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Reminds me of my old Trans Am LT1 that I cammed, except mine had less lope and wasn't as loud, but still, brought back memories. That car ran well for its time. I agree on the high rpm sound of a nice high compression American V8. Like the Gen 3 Coyote...12.0:1, 7500 rpm, DI (and port injection for other times).
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06-29-2020, 06:20 PM | #36 | |
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I wish Ford would put the flat plane crank into the 5.0 Mach 1, I'd toss in a set of equal length headers (which only work with FPC)... pure love.
Here it is with a 90% stock exhaust from factory header to chrome tailpipe tips. It has the driver's side CA front cat delete. Still heck of loud at WOT...
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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06-29-2020, 06:22 PM | #37 |
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disappointing to see a video dedicated to one of the quickest bolt on m6 cars and they’re doing 30 rolls. fun cars though.
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06-29-2020, 06:33 PM | #38 |
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He is at 10.8 on stock ported IMO and ported TB. The ported MSD and 95mm is putting out 30 or so HP along with a very strong 5800 to 6300 power bump (2" headers would help also). so 10.65s?? FBO M6 is possible.
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Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.
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06-30-2020, 01:33 AM | #39 | |
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He also had another m6 car with an MSD, 95TB, headers, and E go 10.83. I'm sure a well sorted MSD fbo m6 car is capable of 10.6
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06-30-2020, 07:44 AM | #40 |
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My only issue with the hi-ram is the hood needed to run it on the street. There was a Vette at the last get together with his hood cut for a hi-ram, looked pretty good actually.
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06-30-2020, 08:53 AM | #41 | |
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Even if you have to cut the hood it'd be great if you somehow didn't have to cut the plastic cowl trim piece with the incoming Texas Speed units.
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07-08-2020, 12:14 PM | #42 |
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I appreciate all of the view points and experiences from you guys. I’m attempting to pull from all of my past experiences and the experiences from info here on the forums to determine what I’m going to be the most satisfied with long term.
I have had a history of selling or trading my vehicles every 1 to 2 or years, but I’m ready to get a car a that I can commit to for a change lol. Ironically the girlfriend wants the same commitment change from me as well haha. Anyways I’m drawn to the ZL1 for the added performance out of the box and the specialness of the Zl1 vs the SS. However, as someone mentioned before as good as the A10 is I am concerned that I might miss the M6 for fun factor. This is going to be 98% a street car. I’ll eventually take it to the drag strip to see what times I can run, but this will be rare for me. What I miss about my C6 Z06 was the N/A LS7 and the uniqueness of the car. Like I said the LT1 feels very close to the LS7 under 4500PRMs, but I do miss the top end pull of that motor. I’m thinking that with the MSD and other bolt ons that will help get the LT1 to closer resemble the LS7 and maybe I’ll be happy at that point, but what I’m concerned with is if I spend the cash on bolt ons then I’m still not satisfied lol. At that point my investment would be better spent on the ZL1 from the beginning.
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