[BlaqWhole]

Nobody is allowed to talk crap about the Mustang anymore. I won't allow for it.

[NW-99SS]

In for Blaq post retractions - LOL

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Subscribed for Blaq's Stang Defense Show

[BlaqWhole]

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

TWO GT500s at the car show here in Boise today. That Kona blue CFTP looked sick in person -> the color + lowered + CF wheels + CF wing. Although, both would look better with racing stripes IMO:

[s346k]

dang do eye spy an r32 skyline next to the black one?

[Modernmusclecar]

Blaq flexing on Camaro6 now? It didnt work on Canaro5 years ago.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by s346k

dang do eye spy an r32 skyline next to the black one?

I believe so (good eye btw)! I didn't get a good pic of it, but pretty sure that's what that was. Here's a slightly better view of it with less of a crop than the other pic I posted:

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Modernmusclecar

Blaq flexing on Camaro6 now? It didnt work on Canaro5 years ago.

I miss the Camaro5 days. I'd like to think I was just as charming back then as I am now. Lol.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

TWO GT500s at the car show here in Boise today. That Kona blue CFTP looked sick in person -> the color + lowered + CF wheels + CF wing. Although, both would look better with racing stripes IMO:

Gotta say they do look amazing. I just wish Ford had done things slightly different with them. Like chucked that expensive DCT and went with the A10. And better quality and workmanship. I doubt I'll ever buy one but I'm always tempted into considering buying one. It would have to be a hell of a deal tho.

[Modernmusclecar]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I miss the Camaro5 days. I'd like to think I was just as charming back then as I am now. Lol.

Haha...arent we all tho?

[BlaqWhole]

I gotta say, the ZL1 will always be compared to the GT500. And I'm sure some people think the GT500 is a better deal...IF you can get one at MSRP (which you can't). But I still keep reading about all these engine failures with the GT500 and I gotta say the ZL1, tho "underpowered", is still a much better deal when you factor in everything that comes with it. The fact that you can get one fully loaded and still come out less than Base MSRP of the GT500 says a lot. And obviously GM built more of a rock solid powerplant than Ford did. I still am under the impression that the GT500 was a rush job and Ford HAD to have it ready by MY2020. If they had just 1 more year to develop it further then I think things would be a lot different.

[NW-99SS]

Ford was already VERY late with the GT500 as an answer to the ZL1 available in 2017...while they should be comparable, the price point difference for actual acquisition will always factor.

[MBSS1LE]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Ford was already VERY late with the GT500 as an answer to the ZL1 available in 2017...while they should be comparable, the price point difference for actual acquisition will always factor.

I always have to take a step back when somebody expresses this idea of a Mustang or Camaro trim level being an "answer" to something the other camp is doing. I believe both organizations simply look to ensure they produce products with content they believe their target demographic will consume at the highest take rate.

I do not think the current GT500 is an "answer" to the ZL1 and therefore also chuckle at the idea it is "late to the game". The ZL1 has been offered by GM since the 2017 model year. It was not an "answer" to the GT350/GT350R. It was just the evolution of the previous generation ZL1. The new Mustang Mach 1 is not "an answer" to our SS 1LE package. The idea that there is an answer, or should be an answer in every trim level versus a competing manufacturer is absurd.

In my opinion, the only time a manufacturer has a need to "answer" a competitors offering is when they are losing significant sales in a given market. Ford definitely had to "answer" GM's ponycar offering back in 2010 because the Mustang was suddenly losing market share to it in big numbers. That is not the case today.